Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:60016 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 51250 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2012 20:57:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Apr 2012 20:57:22 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=kris.craig@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=kris.craig@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.212.182 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: kris.craig@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.182 mail-wi0-f182.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.182] ([209.85.212.182:40708] helo=mail-wi0-f182.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 42/5E-05733-1B78C8F4 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:57:22 -0400 Received: by wibhr14 with SMTP id hr14so4960132wib.11 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 13:57:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=GUQAA8IguOFfPHs2GgB8ofgKNC994OH5zpPYeXGpuf4=; b=KdV/+8FxH+0Q+JZlgabqe9KQU7NgDpzBw87spXP80bWE5mxCo7SI1Z1Umq796UHIE4 hAQQe80I7Zb2CRD26no7C+X0OkSVUK4Z0GOgllFpee81LH7Gr0ieHc8qfoI3Z4ihaakd YiGzJ8C6dA5e+V2S4Rrr6XrL7U5qtfQ1agwVouIQ+j2r7WX/psNj7LOFp+fnkm3mjZaO 7W1J3pEFwmLMR+Ci6eZTjaAOILGlRWJ277ITjWvfrOVIog60gMdHPlR2lu8hosPWVh5g Chp3/jtIP3d6e8WWF8TKkCM26Us3gjJwF38JZqlfok/aMFTc5GTzbiMP4tb3C4+7z7RY j5Yg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.139.12 with SMTP id b12mr7891861wej.4.1334609838965; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 13:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.1.82 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 13:57:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F8C7FAC.6060709@sugarcrm.com> References: <4F8C7FAC.6060709@sugarcrm.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 13:57:18 -0700 Message-ID: To: Stas Malyshev Cc: Ferenc Kovacs , PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d625745d85af04bdd211a3 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] voting without vcs accounts From: kris.craig@gmail.com (Kris Craig) --0016e6d625745d85af04bdd211a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > > So this time, I would like focusing only on the following: > > I think before going into these, it is important to answer this > question: what is the problem we're trying to solve? > > -- > Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect > SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ > (408)454-6900 ext. 227 > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > I reject the premise of that question because it implies that nothing in PHP should ever be changed unless it's "fixing" something that's broken. By that standard, it would be virtually impossible to get any new features added. With that in mind, here's the short answer: The problem is that there is a feature people are requesting that currently does not exist. The longer answer: This is not a bugfix, nor does it purport to be. This is a requested new feature proposed for the next *major* PHP release (i.e. 6.0). This feature will add convenience and allow developers o flexibly assert more control over their code structure. --Kris --0016e6d625745d85af04bdd211a3--