Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:59997 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 92853 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2012 13:04:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Apr 2012 13:04:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tom@punkave.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tom@punkave.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain punkave.com designates 209.85.216.49 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tom@punkave.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.49 mail-qa0-f49.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.49] ([209.85.216.49:52079] helo=mail-qa0-f49.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 30/84-05733-8C81C8F4 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 09:04:08 -0400 Received: by qafi29 with SMTP id i29so4033816qaf.8 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 06:04:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to :x-gm-message-state; bh=XmtgTgdPumMnl+IzCh44fU/vcwAc64dTW+h5ymTKmfs=; b=Fk5qrJNT3PXzwUXuYxCI0sG35yplVnp72iD9sDcLKb0XkkXohVPtgcjgx2jlWQ4O8g ueXJDhmijh1gsEDchzbfmXrSMYQxxei2l1q3mucOMW82FYN9PhsYJ/fJLNthPDsxn9ZA Xy0BgEDpeCt2LdFhgOAb+I4ClKDAYnIcadacDeVhga6h0aNmVgR0I/vWTL4kxudsfq7z Z65kFZ+ue8N0vCyz+gYiackQQteppXZluhCeT/i4ZbGIDcawoaqg5qTooYX1Lrrq+03R sFAjvUL0ZkXyFNEpsp6P+8KPZKvyjgj+8D2esAIZ8oAQTRqEiQ18IFnrQ4wExq0HAh4g GSUg== Received: by 10.224.213.196 with SMTP id gx4mr14943366qab.95.1334581445069; Mon, 16 Apr 2012 06:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.100.101] (c-68-81-107-211.hsd1.pa.comcast.net. [68.81.107.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dx8sm25253473qab.5.2012.04.16.06.04.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 16 Apr 2012 06:04:03 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-ID: <6161167E-45BA-4C84-BBAD-63FF62FE59DC@punkave.com> Cc: Yasuo Ohgaki , Pierre Joye , PHP internals , Tom Boutell , MoriyoshiKoizumi , Kris Craig X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B176) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 09:04:02 -0400 To: Ferenc Kovacs X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkEXymaK4Cbd/8jUUG4JOB1E6tQ4E9ZnvhsRf4OUonBlShJZn4o/b+ufnPgYhSs2sEN6P/v Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Go for votes for the open tag-less PHP files From: tom@punkave.com (Tom Boutell) We could vote on whether we like the idea in principle, with the condition t= hat the final proposal pass separately as a fully detailed rfc. That way you= are telling the authors of these rfcs whether to keep trying and in what di= rection, but you are not forced to accept the end product. I would welcome s= uch a vote just to end fruitless debate on the three points I mentioned. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 3:46 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:39 AM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: >=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> It would be better to vote >>=20 >> - PHP will have script only (tag less) code or not >>=20 >> then >>=20 >> - How it will be implemented >>=20 >> Regards, >>=20 >>=20 > That idea was raised a few times in the past, but Stas and others > expressed, they (and maybe most people) can only vote for something, if th= e > implementation details are tailored out (a patch is nice to have, but > not necessary), otherwise you can't measure whether that change is feasibl= e > at all. >=20 > --=20 > Ferenc Kov=C3=A1cs > @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu