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Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 07:52:33 +0900
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To: "Matthew Weier O'Phinney" <weierophinney@php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Disabling PHP tags by php.ini and CLI options
From: yohgaki@ohgaki.net (Yasuo Ohgaki)

Hi,

2012/4/14 Yasuo Ohgaki <yohgaki@ohgaki.net>:
> Hi,
>
> 2012/4/14 Matthew Weier O'Phinney <weierophinney@php.net>:
>> On 2012-04-13, Tom Boutell <tom@punkave.com> wrote:
>>> Wouldn't this be a significant performance hit when multiplied by
>>> every class file in a project?
>>
>> Typically, you'd cache the end-result of pre-processing, so that
>> subsequent requests can use the processed results. In other words, you
>> incur the expense once per file.
>>
>
> We don't have to look up already processed for
> script_once() by ourselves. Looking up included file

should be

We don't have to manage already processed files for
script_once() buy ourselves.

--
Yasuo Ohgaki

> cache array is enough. script_once() would be fast
> enough for most cases. script() will be slower, but
> nobody would care.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Yasuo Ohgaki
>
>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney
>>> <weierophinney@php.net> wrote:
>>> > On 2012-04-13, David Muir <davidkmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > On 13/04/12 14:55, Stas Malyshev wrote:
>>> > > > > If this is a pecl module library developers cannot use it and t=
rust
>>> > > > > that on php 5.n, it just works. That would fork the language in=
 an
>>> > > > > undesirable way. It should be a core feature, no ini flag, no
>>> > > > > sometimes-there module.
>>> > > > PHP 5.n is at least a year away, wide adoption of it - more like =
5 years
>>> > > > away. So if you want to write code that would run anywhere (as op=
posed
>>> > > > on systems you control) you'd have to wait minimum 5 years. Would=
n't it
>>> > > > better to have it earlier?
>>> > > > OTOH, requiring extensions is a common thing for applications, an=
d any
>>> > > > pecl extension is one command away for most setups, or one downlo=
ad away
>>> > > > for others. And can be made work even in 5.2 if desired.
>>> > >
>>> > > Can't it also be handled using streams to inject a leading <?php to=
 the
>>> > > file prior to inclusion? A PECL extension would then just make it r=
un a
>>> > > bit faster.
>>> >
>>> > I made this very suggestion earlier this week (we do this in ZF1 to
>>> > emulate short tag support for those who use them).
>>
>>
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