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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:02:05 +0200
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To: Kris Craig <kris.craig@gmail.com>
Cc: Yasuo Ohgaki <yohgaki@ohgaki.net>, Arvids Godjuks <arvids.godjuks@gmail.com>, 
	Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk>, PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Disabling PHP tags by php.ini and CLI options
From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs)

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"lol ... really REALLY stupid"

ps: I got baited
2012.04.13. 2:08, "Kris Craig" <kris.craig@gmail.com> ezt =C3=ADrta:

> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Arvids Godjuks <arvids.godjuks@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > You all know where the short_tags, register_globals, magic_quotes and
> other
> > stuff like that took the language and the problems it made.
> > Doesn`t history teach us a lesson? I see that it did not for some activ=
e
> > members of this list.
> > Many are still cleaning up the mess of thouse optional php.ini
> directives,
> > Ibhad to clean up myself one project, took me 2 months to properly fix =
it
> > and make to run on PHP 5, anyway we ended up rewriting the whole thing
> from
> > scratch, a year of day to day work.
> > Now i write my stuff E_ALL, including strict stuff and I know for a fac=
t
> > that there is no php.ini switch that could screw up my applications on
> > different hosting platforms (yes, some minor things can happen in
> specific
> > situations, but any properly configured PHP 5.3/5.4 will run smooth). A=
nd
> > now you purpose to add a switch that in one line can disable the
> > application for good (and get it's sources spit out all over the place)=
.
> > And even if i write it in the right way - i have to convert every damn
> > external library. Ok, i upload it to the host and guess what - it spews
> the
> > code out because it is configured for the <?php tag!
> >
> > It will never get adopted, too many legacy stuff, to many external tool=
s.
> > And php native templates? I dont neet any twig, smarty or any other
> stuff.
> > And guess what - most template engines cache compiled templates, and th=
ey
> > are - ta-daa - PHP EMBEDDED IN HTML CODE!
> >
> > Common sence is allien to some people on this list or what?
> >
>
> As is civility and basic mutual respect, it would seem.
>

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