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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 18:23:14 -0700
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To: Arvids Godjuks <arvids.godjuks@gmail.com>
Cc: Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com>, PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Disabling PHP tags by php.ini and CLI options
From: kris.craig@gmail.com (Kris Craig)

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On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Arvids Godjuks <arvids.godjuks@gmail.com>w=
rote:

> I will not write something like that any more, but you should understand
> that Criss is writing to the list tons of e-mails and his attitude to oth=
er
> people ideas and arguments is getting on people nerves. Remember thecphra=
se
> from the Mythbusters "I reject your reality and substitute my own!". It
> feels just that way with Criss.
>

It's "Kris," btw.  ;P

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, including me.  I do convey my
points with confidence and conviction, and I understand that can be
intimidating for some.  But the fact that I'm very sure of myself, perhaps
excessively so at times, does not justify resorting to personal attacks.
Just match my assertiveness with assertiveness of your own; aggression is
not necessary.  I always won all the debates in school and that can
definitely be frustrating when you're on the other end of that.  But again,
try not to take it so personally.  If everyone puts forth the best logic
and avoids the temptation to get emotional, the debate will inevitably lead
to increased clarity on all sides of an issue that would otherwise not have
been possible.  That's why it's important that you try to let go of your
resentment and follow the cool, even, unending center line of logic.  If
you can master that, these discussions will be far less frustrating for
you.  =3D)


>
> I'm sorry if I crossed any lines, I made my case. I would like to believe
> that my arguments about the topic are valid and would be taken into
> account.
>

Your arguments are no less valid than mine or anyone else's.  We're just
asking that you tone down the personal attacks.



> 13.04.2012 2:53 =D0=CF=CC=D8=DA=CF=D7=C1=D4=C5=CC=D8 "Stas Malyshev" <sma=
lyshev@sugarcrm.com>
> =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=CC:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > > Common sence is allien to some people on this list or what?
> >
> > While I think you make a good point, I also think we could do without
> > personal (or multi-personal) attacks. It is fine to discuss and
> > criticize ideas, but let's avoid attacks on personal level and
> > disparaging personal qualities of people. Intelligent people can have
> > different points of view and disagree completely on some subjects. Even
> > if you think somebody's idea is very bad, please let's say "I think you=
r
> > idea is bad", not "You are a crazy moron".
> > --
> > Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect
> > SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/
> > (408)454-6900 ext. 227
> >
>

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