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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 03:29:31 +0300
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To: Kris Craig <kris.craig@gmail.com>
Cc: PHP internals list <internals@lists.php.net>, Yasuo Ohgaki <yohgaki@ohgaki.net>, 
	David Muir <davidkmuir@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] New .phpp File Type for Pure-Code PHP Scripts
From: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com (Arvids Godjuks)

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Sorry, but how will i load a template then? I do that in a controller whose
file is.plain php code with no html. Now i'm forced to use some kind of
template engine that does not including a template, but parsing it and
replacing keywords with data? I really do not have to put a sarcastic
phrase here, do i?
13.04.2012 2:05 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=
=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C "Kris Craig" <kris.craig@gmail.com> =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=
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> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:46 PM, David Muir <davidkmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 13/04/12 09:38, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > 2012/4/13 Kris Craig <kris.craig@gmail.com>:
> > >> Per recent discussions, I have drafted an RFC for this.  This propos=
al
> > >> offers what I believe to be a more sane and realistic approach to
> > >> addressing the question of incorporating a new breed of tag-less PHP
> > >> scripts.
> > >>
> > >> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/phpp
> > > This may work for LFI issue for new codes.
> > > Few questions.
> > >
> > > CLI may use .phpp as PHP script always. (i.e. execute w/o <?php or
> else)
> > > It's like DOS, though.
> > >
> > > How do you enforce .phpp as script only for Web?
> > > Is it a rule for configuration? or .phpp just never supposed to locat=
e
> > > under docroot?
> > > It relates previous question. How about bootstrap script for
> frameworks?
> > >
> > >> A regular .php script cannot be included from a .phpp script. An
> > E_WARNING will be thrown for include and an E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR will be
> > thrown for require; in both instances, the included file will be ignore=
d.
> > > Some people may try to make .phpp handled by web.
> > > I cannot tell if this setting is going to be popular, but if it
> > > does, isn't it the end of embedded PHP?
> > > It might be good if PHP is more tolerant for this usage.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Yasuo Ohgaki
> > > yohgaki@ohgaki.net
> > >
> >
> > That's a huge WTF that a templating library can't be written as .phpp,
> > because it then won't be able to load a template.
> >
>
> That's actually not true.  Please refer to the diagram embedded in the RF=
C.
>
> Basically, you can load a template just fine-- you just can't do it
> directly from a .phpp file, which you shouldn't be doing, anyway.  The
> .phpp file is, at least for the most part, intended to be included from a
> regular .php file, which also would include whatever you're using for you=
r
> templates.  In other words, they can interact just fine; you just can't p=
ut
> the template upstream from a .phpp file in the include stack-- which,
> again, you really shouldn't be doing, anyway, as it's just bad
> architecture.
>
>
> >
> > David
> >
>

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