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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:07:36 -0700
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To: Arvids Godjuks <arvids.godjuks@gmail.com>
Cc: Yasuo Ohgaki <yohgaki@ohgaki.net>, Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk>, 
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Disabling PHP tags by php.ini and CLI options
From: kris.craig@gmail.com (Kris Craig)

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On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Arvids Godjuks <arvids.godjuks@gmail.com>wrote:

> You all know where the short_tags, register_globals, magic_quotes and other
> stuff like that took the language and the problems it made.
> Doesn`t history teach us a lesson? I see that it did not for some active
> members of this list.
> Many are still cleaning up the mess of thouse optional php.ini directives,
> Ibhad to clean up myself one project, took me 2 months to properly fix it
> and make to run on PHP 5, anyway we ended up rewriting the whole thing from
> scratch, a year of day to day work.
> Now i write my stuff E_ALL, including strict stuff and I know for a fact
> that there is no php.ini switch that could screw up my applications on
> different hosting platforms (yes, some minor things can happen in specific
> situations, but any properly configured PHP 5.3/5.4 will run smooth). And
> now you purpose to add a switch that in one line can disable the
> application for good (and get it's sources spit out all over the place).
> And even if i write it in the right way - i have to convert every damn
> external library. Ok, i upload it to the host and guess what - it spews the
> code out because it is configured for the <?php tag!
>
> It will never get adopted, too many legacy stuff, to many external tools.
> And php native templates? I dont neet any twig, smarty or any other stuff.
> And guess what - most template engines cache compiled templates, and they
> are - ta-daa - PHP EMBEDDED IN HTML CODE!
>
> Common sence is allien to some people on this list or what?
>

As is civility and basic mutual respect, it would seem.

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