Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:59666 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 53804 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2012 18:27:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Apr 2012 18:27:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain sugarcrm.com designates 67.192.241.173 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 67.192.241.173 smtp173.dfw.emailsrvr.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [67.192.241.173] ([67.192.241.173:41672] helo=smtp173.dfw.emailsrvr.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 35/E2-38506-D8B748F4 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:27:26 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp7.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4748225853B; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:27:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp7.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: smalyshev-AT-sugarcrm.com) with ESMTPSA id CE44B2585B3; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:27:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4F847B8A.9010007@sugarcrm.com> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 11:27:22 -0700 Organization: SugarCRM User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120313 Thunderbird/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Boutell CC: PHP Internals References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [off] PHP: a fractal of bad design From: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com (Stas Malyshev) Hi! > Scroll down a bit; he gets into valid points about the == operator, > for instance. It's not a useless post. He does cite too many things > that he has to follow up himself by saying "this was fixed in PHP > 5.x.y." If it was fixed, why is it on your laundry list still? What exactly valid points? == is a converting operator, === is a strict operator. OK, in his favorite language it is not. Where exactly the valid point is? Author goes at great lengths to refuse to make even a slight mental effort to understand how it works (really, it's not that hard) and then complains it's "useless". Well, a lot of things would be useless if you don't want to know how to use them. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227