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Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 07:45:48 +0900
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To: Tom Boutell <tom@punkave.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: source files without opening tag
From: yohgaki@ohgaki.net (Yasuo Ohgaki)

Hi,

I talked on twitter.
Yes, he is kidding, but he is serious, too.

I've added the RFC to Under Discussion and added
security issue description. I also added my proposal that
controls embed mode.

BTW, I don't think we need new "require_path" why don't
we use

require "file.php", ture;

or some thing similar?
I prefer to use switch, since security countermeasure is
better to be enforced by switch.

Regards,

--
Yasuo Ohgaki
yohgaki@ohgaki.net



2012/4/9 Tom Boutell <tom@punkave.com>:
> Moriyoshi was kidding, as near as I can tell (:
>
> To take it at face value though, the *cough* April 1st *cough*
> proposal of Moriyoshi calls for the complete abolition of the feature
> with no backwards compatibility with existing code that uses PHP as a
> template language... including most popular frameworks that sensibly
> obey a separation between class files and template files but still use
> PHP rather than a dedicated templating language for templates.
>
> I don't think that's realistic (and neither did the author it
> appears). Since PHP's usability as a template language may conceivably
> be improved by other proposals, it is undesirable as well even if you
> don't currently find PHP to be a suitable template language.
>
> Please read my proposal over carefully as it does address the obvious
> issues that make Moriyoshi's proposal possibly less than serious in
> intent (:
>
> I would oppose a php.ini flag for this as that gives us two
> incompatible versions of the current version of the language to worry
> about and makes the feature effectively unusable in reusable code.
> This approach has created problems before.
>
> On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Yasuo Ohgaki <yohgaki@ohgaki.net> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> There is RFC that is written by Moriyoshi.
>> It's not listed in RFC page, though.
>>
>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/nophptags
>>
>> I think these should be merged.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Yasuo Ohgaki
>> yohgaki@ohgaki.net
>>
>>
>>
>> 2012/4/9 Yasuo Ohgaki <yohgaki@ohgaki.net>:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Moriyoshi has created same entry on 4/1, but
>>> it seems it was deleted =A0already.
>>>
>>> Anyway, he had a patch for it.
>>>
>>> https://gist.github.com/2266652
>>>
>>> As I mentioned in other thread, we should better to have
>>> a switch to disable embed mode for security reasons.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yasuo Ohgaki
>>> yohgaki@ohgaki.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/4/9 Tom Boutell <tom@punkave.com>:
>>>> I have written an RFC proposing backwards-compatible support for
>>>> source files without an opening <?php tag:
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/source_files_without_opening_tag
>>>>
>>>> This RFC is not yet listed at https://wiki.php.net/rfc. I am not sure
>>>> what the requirements are to get it added to the "Under Discussion"
>>>> session and get the ball rolling formally. Please enlighten and I'll
>>>> do whatever is required.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
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