Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:59391 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 63614 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2012 07:11:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Apr 2012 07:11:23 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.26.187 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.26.187 c2beaomr09.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.26.187] ([213.123.26.187:52045] helo=mail.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 56/92-57786-898EF7F4 for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 03:11:21 -0400 Received: from host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com (EHLO _10.0.0.5_) ([81.138.11.136]) by c2beaomr09.btconnect.com with ESMTP id GZF44220; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 08:11:18 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4F7FE895.9010709@lsces.co.uk> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 08:11:17 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120215 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: <3C.7D.30259.C0B5E7F4@pb1.pair.com> <63.B1.57786.258CF7F4@pb1.pair.com> In-Reply-To: <63.B1.57786.258CF7F4@pb1.pair.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Fair-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0301.4F7FE895.0079, actions=tag X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2012.4.5.53315:17:7.944, ip=81.138.11.136, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, URI_ENDS_IN_PHP, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_MAILTO, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, BODY_SIZE_1300_1399, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2beaomr09.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B0201.4F7FE896.0015:SCFSTAT14830815,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP as a template language From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Sébatien Durand wrote: > But I was not completely aware of the level of change/break my suggestion > will cause. > > I'm grateful the work you do. It was just a usability/cosmetic remark of a > daily PHP user. I can live with it. You have to bear in mind that many of us have many years of code base invested in PHP and even the 'improvements' that do get through are just major drains on a rare resource - time! There IS nothing wrong with PHP that was written 10 years ago and many sites just never get updated. Heck PHP4 IS still running in the field. My own view is that many of the current 'developments' are more to make the language 'compiler friendly' and don't have a place when running the code live. Fixing the support would eliminate many of the 'complaints' rather than loading PHP up with checks that don't add anything to generating a html page ... which is the only place PHP should be targeting ... from my point of view. Anything else ... use a more suitable language in the first place? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php