Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:59377 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 25981 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2012 21:48:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Apr 2012 21:48:51 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.26.188 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.26.188 c2beaomr10.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.26.188] ([213.123.26.188:17982] helo=mail.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 23/DB-57786-CB46F7F4 for ; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 17:48:45 -0400 Received: from host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com (EHLO _10.0.0.5_) ([81.138.11.136]) by c2beaomr10.btconnect.com with ESMTP id GXR85847; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 22:48:42 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4F7F64B9.2030605@lsces.co.uk> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 22:48:41 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120215 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: <3C.7D.30259.C0B5E7F4@pb1.pair.com> <4F7F5F5B.8000903@thelounge.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Fair-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0301.4F7F64B9.00D7, actions=tag X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2012.4.5.53315:17:7.944, ip=81.138.11.136, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, URI_ENDS_IN_PHP, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_MAILTO, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_1200_1299, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2beaomr10.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B020C.4F7F64BA.0024:SCFSTAT14830815,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP as a template language From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Tom Boutell wrote: > Knock it off with the ad-hominem attacks please. You are entitled to your views, but I suspect that this would be a nail far too far. I for one would be only too happy to cut loose and keep a REAL copy of PHP running as all this ballast is simply destroying what used to be an agile scripting language. Anybody for RealPHP and roll back to say 5.2 and strip out anything not needed at run time :) All this 'hinting' and 'moaning' at what always used to be perfectly good code is the pain in the posterior. STRICT is going to take me months to assimilate, so simply switching back to a version that does not have it and keeping perfectly good sites running makes more sense than discussing changes that need every file the thousands currently running on my system reviewing ... I'm currently having to review every site to check it will even run cleanly on 5.3 when the ISP loads that up next month! -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php