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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP as a template language
From: tom@punkave.com (Tom Boutell)

I have to agree with that. Also: does PHP need to be a templating
language anymore, given excellent templating language implementations
in PHP, like Twig?

On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 3:05 PM, John Crenshaw <johncrenshaw@priacta.com> wr=
ote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: S=E9batien Durand [mailto:sunseb@live.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:55 PM
>> To: internals@lists.php.net
>> Subject: [PHP-DEV] PHP as a template language
>>
>> IMHO, PHP is a great template language. This is what makes it so simple =
and powerful, compared to other web languages.
>>
>> So far, we have "<?php", "<?=3D" and various legacy syntaxes like "<?".
>>
>> A suggestion : deprecate these old tags and replace them with a more ele=
gant and a shorter implementation.
>>
>> For example : "<%" and "<%=3D" or "{%" and "{{" ?
>>
>> What do you think, guys ?
>
> Honestly this is the wrong question. PHP as a template language has much =
larger problems than this. The difference between <?php echo and <?=3D is 7=
 characters and entirely cosmetic. The difference relative to <?php echo ht=
mlentities(..., ENT_QUOTES | ENT_HTML5, 'UTF-8'); ?> however is 56 characte=
rs, security, and encoding bugs.
>
> Proper handling of output escaping is standard in modern template languag=
es. The question shouldn't be "should we add a cooler short tag?". The ques=
tion should be "What needs to be done to make PHP an industry leader in tem=
plate languages again?".
>
> My two cents,
>
> John Crenshaw
> Priacta, Inc.
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