Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:59273 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 7394 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2012 16:55:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Mar 2012 16:55:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.213.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.170 mail-yx0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.170] ([209.85.213.170:51036] helo=mail-yx0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C8/DE-28591-607377F4 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:55:34 -0500 Received: by yenl5 with SMTP id l5so914141yen.29 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 09:55:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3gim2RpsQhIIIue+5+Ua9mIIhLmlHQjPcjmV6TBCTo4=; b=U8IEsHkeol7sAsa0KOVQb/EqRvbK+eepfDmkoU+NrvWSbUJtpwCKLMYmZ7R8Wd1yfG YisS5DkZAIfs6xEbv7O+wf1Mm7ebYbKw/O6+5DRVjdWJFrP04j8zJTyQfnYW1sk1jdJv 43fV0gGaQuWdLYTU1enQkr+trgzZkIFUGQ1mMJHndYDEMLUXxzNITU3Mp1sJAPtJG+1+ z9SrL4e0m/NW/ZU6EsNErsTnZPyafm6PwBJy6Y3wTJMTMnz/gCsUUpRwZpVHvmPcehwl /mXmEFHeHTyJ2afqxm+lxAbFGKeKtzuIuhEqCmqS8BypZnx+KD1fevT3ZW+qNIguwBai Zmzw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.114.168 with SMTP id c28mr2099935yhh.58.1333212931129; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 09:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.147.168.16 with HTTP; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 09:55:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F772D78.2060909@cubiclesoft.com> References: <4F772D78.2060909@cubiclesoft.com> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:55:31 +0200 Message-ID: To: Thomas Hruska Cc: PHP Development Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Confusing Windows Users 101...the download page is UNUSABLE. From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) hi, On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Thomas Hruska wr= ote: > Fixing the Windows binary download page so that it is USABLE by the avera= ge > user should be priority #1. > Here are the specific issues with the Windows binary download page: > > * The "Which version do I choose?" box is confusing, out of date, doesn't > actually address all the real questions users will have, and most users w= ill > just give up before getting to that box. =A0Even if they do get to the bo= x, > the end result will be an even more confused/confounded user. =A0The box > should, at the very least, explain in clear English the difference betwee= n > the Non-Thread Safe and Thread Safe builds. =A0Also, assume that most use= rs > won't even know what Visual Studio even is. =A0Hold the user's hand here = and > you'll have less cruft on the mailing lists later. Right VC6 could be removed. However I kept it so that users still downloading older PHP 5.2 or 5.3 still needs this notice, it has been proven to be useful. > * The ordering of the downloads seems backwards. =A0But until you get the > "Which version do I choose?" box fixed, I won't be able to determine this= . > > * The "Select an option to direct access..." dropdown is completely usele= ss. Right, now that we have only two kind of binaries, NTS (fastcgi) or TS (apache SAPIs and co). But in a few months, that wil change again with the re introduciton of the x64 binaries. > * The previous page says "Windows binaries and installers". =A0In that > context, the user mentally asks: =A0"Why is there source code on the next > page? =A0And why is source code listed first if I'm after binaries?" The box, clearly visible, contains the binary. We can indeed move the src link down the box. > And, last, but HARDLY least. =A0Listed last because this item requires > rethinking and redesigning the entire Windows binary download page: Feel free to provide a patch for a wizard. btw, I, for one, am not BLIND. Thanks. Cheers, --=20 Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org