Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:59241 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 30851 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2012 17:17:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Mar 2012 17:17:22 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=christopher.jones@oracle.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=christopher.jones@oracle.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain oracle.com from 141.146.126.227 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: christopher.jones@oracle.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 141.146.126.227 acsinet15.oracle.com Received: from [141.146.126.227] ([141.146.126.227:36217] helo=acsinet15.oracle.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FA/41-22662-2AAE57F4 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:17:22 -0500 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q2UHHJHF000719 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:17:19 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q2UHHI4Z001999 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:17:19 GMT Received: from abhmt113.oracle.com (abhmt113.oracle.com [141.146.116.65]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q2UHHI9X023286 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:17:18 -0500 Received: from hubby.local (/50.131.91.176) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:17:18 -0700 Message-ID: <4F75EA9E.8040001@oracle.com> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:17:18 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <4F74DFF6.7010507@sugarcrm.com> <4F75048E.7050102@sugarcrm.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090202.4F75EAA0.0008,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Change all XFAIL tests to FAIL From: christopher.jones@oracle.com (Christopher Jones) On 3/30/12 4:20 AM, Alexey Shein wrote: > That's not a noise. See p.1 above. If we don't setup *constant* > notifications, people won't feel pressure. We do get constant notification of bugs assigned to us. I don't believe it has any impact on the fix rate. We need a balance between carrot & stick here. The carrot being extra hands & a general positive attitude (n.b. by caring about this issue you are exhibiting both, so my comment is a general one) Chris -- Email: christopher.jones@oracle.com Tel: +1 650 506 8630 Blog: http://blogs.oracle.com/opal/