Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:59178 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 70515 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2012 08:28:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Mar 2012 08:28:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ar@ez.no; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ar@ez.no; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain ez.no from 209.85.160.42 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ar@ez.no X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.42 mail-pb0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.42] ([209.85.160.42:63587] helo=mail-pb0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2C/00-04438-31A717F4 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 03:28:03 -0500 Received: by pbcun1 with SMTP id un1so8045247pbc.29 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 01:28:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=s3cjzWLQKmYRz8P5ZxCcDOREFLuJlGiahVZvIcwQAWM=; b=NsZ5LL29qpQQx/CQv9Of+7e1Alz/U+M77cUzCsZuJMPJECrUOGypI4uaus6xFSOO5y psHABtk+gWgEuZuYzPp7aSu5+BxIwHL8ya3D0ORtBQTbh79M4EY4TG9SSemW+5ihSEEV PVWwKB+BVAsxwuaAjr2CGM3DRuMtm7ZuBsWLF9szXfQGYAU02DskiS8DnxdWYYOoczOj tZRM6R22avZS7ElhWD5p5tFniUc0MZ75ud1xyLzQwh/y4lya9SLKfswXkRUjDdTJK4tS q8s5DipdX7F1KjX+9Nm6C2wD/GgyvB8G1KaadprNjqrvfAgfDfK9YX8CNw91HeWfO5L7 a/vg== Received: by 10.68.230.99 with SMTP id sx3mr60435546pbc.55.1332836880351; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 01:28:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.136.169 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 01:27:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4F189F5F.20109@sugarcrm.com> <4F18A8C5.9020301@phpgangsta.de> <4F18B07C.2010402@sugarcrm.com> <1327019609-sup-8204@fewbar.com> <1332788209-sup-9283@fewbar.com> <1332803360.5855.14.camel@guybrush> <1332829551-sup-6691@fewbar.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:27:40 +0200 Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: Clint Byrum , =?UTF-8?Q?Johannes_Schl=C3=BCter?= , internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b2edf03cc010004bc354499 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkLzlje5+jgRvr7I6fovl92MjUiLNtoJcyybpPMte8gmhjuT9bs8743wItn+o2tBmcOB8d6 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4.0 rc6 and release From: ar@ez.no (=?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIFLDuG1ja2U=?=) --047d7b2edf03cc010004bc354499 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > hi, > hi, > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > > I think the lesson here is to get the necessary bits from Suhosin into > > PHP's core so that users can feel safe when using stock PHP, rather > > than needing to wait for the good and generous folks at the hardened > > PHP project to catch up. > > I disagree. The lesson here is that the Ubuntu's security team should > have discussed with us to see what are actually their worries instead > of not following what is actually a good move for everyone. > Why? It is common practice to avoid .0 releases, including those from PHP :) Actually, this is not a bad thing at all. It makes sure lots of PHP projects and Frameworks stays on 5.3 as a common base for the next 1-3 years, introp wise that is a good thing. And those that want the extra 5.4 stuff can get it somehow anyway, and as part of the distro in 7 months. > > Cheers, > -- > Pierre > > @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org > --047d7b2edf03cc010004bc354499--