Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:58930 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 81175 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2012 17:34:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Mar 2012 17:34:06 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=christopher.jones@oracle.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=christopher.jones@oracle.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain oracle.com from 141.146.126.227 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: christopher.jones@oracle.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 141.146.126.227 acsinet15.oracle.com Received: from [141.146.126.227] ([141.146.126.227:47579] helo=acsinet15.oracle.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 3A/05-51575-B86D06F4 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:34:05 -0500 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q2EHY0BG000753 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:34:01 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q2EHY0IJ009176 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:34:00 GMT Received: from abhmt102.oracle.com (abhmt102.oracle.com [141.146.116.54]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q2EHXx6t008193 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:33:59 -0500 Received: from [130.35.70.154] (/130.35.70.154) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:33:59 -0700 Message-ID: <4F60D687.8040102@oracle.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:33:59 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129 Thunderbird/10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <4F60D511.1050802@lerdorf.com> In-Reply-To: <4F60D511.1050802@lerdorf.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A020207.4F60D689.0067,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] set the PHP_INI_ENTRY_* values the same as for php.ini-production From: christopher.jones@oracle.com (Christopher Jones) On 03/14/2012 10:27 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > The biggest problem with the concept of virgin PHP settings being geared > for production is that by definition that isn't very developer friendly. > Keeping the learning curve shallow has always been a goal for PHP which > is why things like display_errors exist. A new developer may not have > any idea where to look for PHP errors and might give up when all he gets > is a blank page. > > The assumption is that by the time you are ready to put something into > production you have spent a little bit of time with PHP and you likely > have stumbled across the suggested production php.ini which is then > trivial to apply. In that case, perhaps the STD_PHP_INI_* values should match those in php.ini-development? Chris -- Email: christopher.jones@oracle.com Tel: +1 650 506 8630 Blog: http://blogs.oracle.com/opal/