Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:58726 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 62102 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2012 09:49:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Mar 2012 09:49:08 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=h.reindl@thelounge.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=h.reindl@thelounge.net; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain thelounge.net designates 91.118.73.15 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: h.reindl@thelounge.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 91.118.73.15 mail.thelounge.net Received: from [91.118.73.15] ([91.118.73.15:47001] helo=mail.thelounge.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 5F/74-38795-21F275F4 for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2012 04:49:07 -0500 Received: from rh.thelounge.net (rh.thelounge.net [10.0.0.99]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.thelounge.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8F11BB3 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:49:03 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F572F11.4030104@thelounge.net> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 10:49:05 +0100 Organization: the lounge interactive design User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <4F563667.7080006@akbkhome.com> <4F56A796.9000109@akbkhome.com> In-Reply-To: <4F56A796.9000109@akbkhome.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=7F780279; url=http://arrakis.thelounge.net/gpg/h.reindl_thelounge.net.pub.txt Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig87837658E1E0AC35681E0185" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] consider reverting E_ALL with E_STRICT From: h.reindl@thelounge.net (Reindl Harald) --------------enig87837658E1E0AC35681E0185 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 07.03.2012 01:11, schrieb Alan Knowles: > Sorry - top post as I can't reply to all the mails on the thread.. >=20 > - display errors on. > Yes, this is a business decision, 20 servers running upgraded at differ= ent times, some have less maintenance others > have more.. Seriously, the chance of me even bothering to check one of = those log files is pretty slim. However if > the code is producing warning/notices etc. then that is likely hiding a= unexpected behavior that the client will > report as a bug anyway later, so it's proved over many years to be cost= effective to have them display, clients > report problems, and we can fix them.. They kind of like that service..= =2E. it takes 10 minutes to write a script running hourly or whatever you want per cron, mailig you the error-log and reset it at the same time what you are doing is gambling that a random user will notify you about warnings not realizing that they mostly not do NEVER rely on a enduser reporting problems where this can be automated especially because php-warnings in the source code often breaks applications by have them in a form-value or in javascript parts, having them in a from-value can easily result in post them finally in a database this is not a business decision, this is poor administration --------------enig87837658E1E0AC35681E0185 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9XLxEACgkQhmBjz394Anl6yACeJuvnwh9bxkz0awJAiJVqQVfI edUAniMrkSPfKzMVSJ2N4tYVrwIKM5oA =Tk77 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig87837658E1E0AC35681E0185--