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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 15:45:23 -0800
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Scalar Type Hinting
From: kris.craig@gmail.com (Kris Craig)

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Personally, speaking for myself at least, I've quieted on the subject
temporarily in favor of advocating some improvements to the RFC voting
process that will ultimately make it easier for us to work through these
type hinting questions.  I'll be resurrecting the discussion on this end
before too long.  =)

--Kris


On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Anthony Ferrara <ircmaxell@gmail.com> wrote:

> My concern is the total lack of talk on-list about it.  It's obviously
> not perfect, but there has been little to no talk on-list about it.
> That is an indication to me that it's not ready or that it won't get
> in if put to a vote...
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Anthony
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Simon Schick
> <simonsimcity@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > It got quite around that because we have some RFCs to this where the
> > functionality seems to be defined as the people thought it should be.
> > Otherwise they can raise their hands and write a mail that they want to
> > update the RFC - but as there's no one doing that, I think we're quite
> > close to what we wanted.
> >
> > Take a look at it and feel free to add your ideas in this thread.
> > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/parameter_type_casting_hints
> > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/object_cast_to_types
> >
> > Bye
> > Simon
> >
> > 2012/3/6 Kris Craig <kris.craig@gmail.com>
> >
> >> Wow no offense, but your timing is terrible, Raymond!  We've been going
> >> back and forth on this for the past couple weeks now, though the
> discussion
> >> has quieted for the moment.
> >>
> >> I would suggest you go through some of the recent posts on Internals.
> >> Right now there basically is no solid consensus on this issue, though
> some
> >> of us have been working to change that.  But as it stands now, I'm not
> >> aware of any plans to introduce expanded typing of any kind in the
> >> foreseeable future.  And even if we did, I highly doubt it would happen
> >> before PHP 6.
> >>
> >> --Kris
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Raymond Irving <xwisdom@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > I came across some info on the web that states that scalar type
> hinting
> >> was
> >> > added to the PHP trunk but it did not make it's way into 5.4 because
> of
> >> > objections from the community. Will it ever make it's way into 5.5?
> >> >
> >> > I know PHP is considered to be a weak typed language but it should
> also
> >> be
> >> > about freedom. Freedom for a PHP developer to choose to use scalar
> type
> >> > hinting whenever he/she sees the need.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Best regards,
> >> > __
> >> > Raymond
> >> >
> >>
>

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