Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:58628 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 94094 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2012 23:05:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Mar 2012 23:05:11 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=kris.craig@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=kris.craig@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.212.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: kris.craig@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.170 mail-wi0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.170] ([209.85.212.170:55140] helo=mail-wi0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 81/82-16054-6A6455F4 for ; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:05:11 -0500 Received: by wibhj13 with SMTP id hj13so2066525wib.29 for ; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 15:05:08 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of kris.craig@gmail.com designates 10.216.135.199 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.216.135.199; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of kris.craig@gmail.com designates 10.216.135.199 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kris.craig@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=kris.craig@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.216.135.199]) by 10.216.135.199 with SMTP id u49mr7136049wei.7.1330988708545 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 05 Mar 2012 15:05:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=kbt+PXn9UA+JoChQapf0fWM0pVVEFYdI8EsYepbq7Uc=; b=H7djfbGUYrC/A6N9WyqlkkhyTXmmCl+Mb/R/HNWEqqfhgxsuFPh6OdB0yAGNlboSbn nEGZ492Bc+ymHd9jqBoFGaCDN2USIYsQ2y+fdCyLglSQL5YA1Ax0IhDI5xD7k0UGH5zw C540r1O/0m2AlzVA50LnSCqiy3V6AonQYW2r2Ss5HERsTqkSFdK0GP+T+1P1GAGL5WL0 Q2eRYbd+LpZN0GO/xlHsa+FcCUxq7JZhepl/nq9T8XLMv6eCvBEmNy0SHHbzYQQNBuQW 4LkPZRDJN6q0U84+6uNijjOvfRVNsz+5RlZFmh3YOQYacIsrju9FQmqqp4Zwwmnqspkx RcNg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.135.199 with SMTP id u49mr5727289wei.7.1330988708437; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 15:05:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.111.78 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Mar 2012 15:05:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4F54C488.6050209@lsces.co.uk> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 15:05:08 -0800 Message-ID: To: Galen Wright-Watson Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6de17df2aa06904ba86f5ec Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] ' wrote: > Personally, I HATE short_open_tab. It has no value-- *except* that, > unfortunately, it's still widely used in many apps and even some frameworks > TTBOMK. So, as worthless as it is, removing it completely would render > these apps inoperable. Leaving it turned-off by default is a given I > think, as at very least people should be discouraged from using them. I > also wouldn't be opposed to the idea of deprecating them, which would allow > these apps time to fix their code accordingly. > > I can't address the original question about its current status; I just > wanted to weight in on the "what's the value" question. Answer: None, > except that too many people are still using them. =) > > --Kris > > > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Galen Wright-Watson wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Lester Caine wrote: >> >> > OK what changed in the automatic updates from PHP5.3.9 to 5.3.10 that >> > stops '> > I do not recall the state of short_open_tag changing but was that >> > 'defaulted' to off when previously it was on? I had thought that '> was >> > discussed and had been left alone, but now I'm told that is only on >> PHP5.4.0 >> > >> >> What's the value of short_open_tag? If disabled, does the host's setup >> allow you to set its value? >> >> >> > Something broke sites without any warning and it would have been nice to >> > be told by that ISP that they were updating PHP anyway :( >> > >> > -- >> > Lester Caine - G8HFL >> > ----------------------------- >> > >> > > --0016e6de17df2aa06904ba86f5ec--