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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 15:04:48 -0800
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] '<?=' with PHP5.3.10
From: kris.craig@gmail.com (Kris Craig)

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Personally, I HATE short_open_tab.  It has no value--  *except* that,
unfortunately, it's still widely used in many apps and even some frameworks
TTBOMK.  So, as worthless as it is, removing it completely would render
these apps inoperable.  Leaving it turned-off by default is a given I
think, as at very least people should be discouraged from using them.  I
also wouldn't be opposed to the idea of deprecating them, which would allow
these apps time to fix their code accordingly.

I can't address the original question about its current status; I just
wanted to weight in on the "what's the value" question.  Answer:  None,
except that too many people are still using them.  =)

--Kris


On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Galen Wright-Watson <ww.galen@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > OK what changed in the automatic updates from PHP5.3.9 to 5.3.10 that
> > stops '<?=' working when it was working previously?
> > I do not recall the state of short_open_tag changing but was that
> > 'defaulted' to off when previously it was on?  I had thought that '<?='
> was
> > discussed and had been left alone, but now I'm told that is only on
> PHP5.4.0
> >
>
> What's the value of short_open_tag? If disabled, does the host's setup
> allow you to set its value?
>
>
> > Something broke sites without any warning and it would have been nice to
> > be told by that ISP that they were updating PHP anyway :(
> >
> > --
> > Lester Caine - G8HFL
> > -----------------------------
> >
>

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