Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:58626 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 90070 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2012 22:56:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Mar 2012 22:56:08 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 208.107.21.52 host-52-21-107-208.midco.net Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 17:56:07 -0500 Received: from [208.107.21.52] ([208.107.21.52:29923] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id BF/91-16054-784455F4 for ; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 17:56:07 -0500 Message-ID: To: internals@lists.php.net References: <4F50EA41.1080706@php.net> <3B.AE.35539.CD7255F4@pb1.pair.com> User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.0-18 (Linux) X-Posted-By: 208.107.21.52 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] discussions, about a 5.3 EOL From: weierophinney@php.net (Matthew Weier O'Phinney) On 2012-03-05, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney > wrote: > > > +1. > > Votes are for later. This was an indication of being in favor of the proposal, no more, no less. > > Since so many distros and ISPs tend to adopt late, this would keep them, > > and their users, covered for a reasonable time period, allowing for a > > cleaner migration path. > > There is a clear migration path defined now for all releases beginning > from 5.4. The discussion here is about 5.3 only. > > Please read all posts or replies, it helps to get the whole idea and > avoid repetitive arguing :) I did, actually. I still agree with Sebastian's proposal. While the PHP group may want to push for faster adoption, the pattern I've observed over and over is that ISPs and distributions -- particularly those with LTS offerings -- tend to adopt a minor version only when the new minor version supplanting it has been released. Does it make sense? No. Is it what happens? Yes. As such, I think it makes a lot of sense to base the lifetime of 5.3 based on when 5.4 is released. For the record, it's the path we're taking with ZF as well -- lifetime for the last minor release of ZF v1 will be determined by when ZF2-stable is released. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney Project Lead | matthew@zend.com Zend Framework | http://framework.zend.com/ PGP key: http://framework.zend.com/zf-matthew-pgp-key.asc