Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:58530 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 89898 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2012 19:48:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Mar 2012 19:48:37 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=dmgx.michael@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=dmgx.michael@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: dmgx.michael@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.54 mail-ww0-f54.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.54] ([74.125.82.54:34567] helo=mail-ww0-f54.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DE/4E-22821-314215F4 for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 14:48:36 -0500 Received: by wgbdq13 with SMTP id dq13so1743681wgb.11 for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 11:48:32 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of dmgx.michael@gmail.com designates 10.216.131.98 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.216.131.98; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of dmgx.michael@gmail.com designates 10.216.131.98 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=dmgx.michael@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=dmgx.michael@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.216.131.98]) by 10.216.131.98 with SMTP id l76mr61502wei.62.1330717712764 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 02 Mar 2012 11:48:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=FMGghuYqhYNUhFSSihGUEi6mW8R2YrNmGfIrh8D3VSU=; b=STXLSYLkJWLzdDp/+T5Xp5neax6A64QPrTb3eBUAatFuA1T5yOFA/SRnzBTN4kEi1e DaAD8Otgq9kLqTHB543jaV/w/bf56TaIDZUPQ2Q8S34QYckJSyicQ7p8rancdj5KExPH qxsRwBpVWyDAWheQyjKYVzBEQd7pbQVa9fwHcUhEmVc9kyz4gu4SAAsv7gA9TXwr95e6 +c4ks1Is+4+kG3nhpINMnWENsNmvfUWQ92tpzVmGrW0zgsX14WtCobtsPg+S/SG5Zmkv 9huBi4HuvrJ6oQBx5/hAcmaua1YVZaroXA9fLpCG1BAVmz9b2E7bmEcBYwCv4ELVuaQH AvFA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.131.98 with SMTP id l76mr57384wei.62.1330717712649; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 11:48:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.51.68 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Mar 2012 11:48:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 14:48:32 -0500 Message-ID: To: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] HEADS UP: 5.4 branch is open again From: dmgx.michael@gmail.com (Michael Morris) PHP 6 comes out sometime around 2024 when, at PHP 5.27 Ramus decides to say, "screw it" - 6. Sorta like what happened with the Linux Kernel (which was 2.26 FOREVER) Tongue in cheek remark aside, we need to be cautious about avoiding using the major version tag (although the stupidity of the browser programming community isn't the way to go either). There are significant differences now between 5.0 and 5.4 functionality, even though the changes between 5.3 and 5.4 are slight - they do add up. Linux fell into this trap - the differences between any two incrementals was tiny, but after 47 of the buggers it was getting ridiculous to say it was still version 2.26.0 compat, which it wasn't. At the end of the day version numbers are perception oriented. If you never move the major number, people will shift perception to the second number being the important one, or in the case of Linux the incremental became the significant one when it shouldn't be. In my opinion, if PHP NEXT has anything - ANYTHING - on par with 5.4 in scope then the distance between it and 5.0 will have become too large to justify calling it a 5.5 and it should be called 6. Fail to do this and the first number will start being ignored by the community at large as superfluous., just as the 2.26 part of the Linux version number had become superfluous before Linux finally bit the bullet and rolled it over. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Kris Craig wrote: > Actually, my vote would be for "PHP Vista".... > > --Kris > > > On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Ronald Chmara wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: >> > that's totally off topic... but we have no idea yet when will be php >> > 6, or whatsoever. >> > However next is in around a year :) >> >> "PHPME", "PHPXP", "PHP Feisty Foxbat", "PHP#".... >> >> Let's name this bike shed*! >> >> -Ronabop >> >> *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson's_Law_of_Triviality >>