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Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 11:06:44 -0800
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To: Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com>
Cc: Clint Byrum <clint@ubuntu.com>, internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] discussions, about a 5.3 EOL
From: kris.craig@gmail.com (Kris Craig)

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Ok, I'm up to speed now.  I agree that Option 1 is the best approach.

--Kris


On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> wrote:

> again, we have a clear EOL process now for 5.4 and later.
>
> Only 5.3 does not have any. We have to define it now instead of doing
> it in 1-2 years without giving our users any kind of reasonable delay
> to plan a migration.
>
> Cheers,
>
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Kris Craig <kris.craig@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm probably missing something, but why not just do it like we did with
> > 5.2?  I.e. we keep maintaining it until PHP 5.5, at which time we
> deprecate
> > it and be done with it?
> >
> > Like I said, I'm probably missing something lol, so if someone could
> > explain why this is different I'd be much obliged!  =)
> >
> > --Kris
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Clint Byrum <clint@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Excerpts from Sebastian Bergmann's message of Fri Mar 02 07:41:53 -0800
> >> 2012:
> >> > On 03/02/2012 07:34 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
> >> > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php53eol
> >> >
> >> >   I discussed with Arne Blankerts and Stefan Priebsch over breakfast
> >> today
> >> >   and Stefan had an interesting idea: why not announce (now) that PHP
> 5.3
> >> >   will go into EOL a year after PHP 5.5 comes out?
> >> >
> >> >     * Now until PHP 5.5 comes out: bug and security fixes for PHP 5.3
> >> >     * From the release of PHP 5.5: security fixes for PHP 5.3 for a
> year
> >> >
> >> >   Ideally, PHP 5.5 would be out in a year from now, so it would come
> down
> >> >   to one year of bug and security fixes and one year of security fixes
> >> >   only. Makes sense to me.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Just chiming in from the Ubuntu side of things. I think this is the most
> >> predictable, and helpful plan for users and for distributors.
> >>
> >> From the user standpoint, its quite useful to know where you stand
> >> for upgrade path. This should make conservative users comfortable with
> >> using 5.3 on existing projects until 5.5 enters RC phase, and then they
> >> can start evaluating their options to move to 5.5 or 5.4, as they know
> >> they'll have a whole year to evaluate 5.5. If you put a clock on 5.3,
> >> and 5.5 slips for legitimate reasons, then they'll be stuck with 5.4
> >> only, and you may actually *miss* the opportunity to get people on the
> >> latest release.
> >>
> >> From a distribution standpoint, anything that lengthens the amount of
> time
> >> that PHP as a project fully supports a release makes our burden smaller,
> >> and gives our users a better chance at having stable software for the
> >> entire life of our LTS releases. Selfish, I know, but just stating the
> >> obvious fact.
> >>
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>
>
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> Pierre
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