Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:58507 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 49565 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2012 17:39:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Mar 2012 17:39:37 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=clint@fewbar.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=clint@ubuntu.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain fewbar.com from 65.98.207.160 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: clint@fewbar.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 65.98.207.160 xenclint.srihosting.com Received: from [65.98.207.160] ([65.98.207.160:41301] helo=xen.spamaps.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8C/B5-22821-6D5015F4 for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:39:35 -0500 Received: from fewbar.com (cpe-76-94-215-209.socal.res.rr.com [76.94.215.209]) by xen.spamaps.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3653160063 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2012 09:39:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by fewbar.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3437F280649; Fri, 2 Mar 2012 09:39:31 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 To: internals In-reply-to: <4F50EA41.1080706@php.net> References: <4F50EA41.1080706@php.net> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 09:39:31 -0800 Message-ID: <1330709339-sup-799@fewbar.com> User-Agent: Sup/git Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] discussions, about a 5.3 EOL From: clint@ubuntu.com (Clint Byrum) Excerpts from Sebastian Bergmann's message of Fri Mar 02 07:41:53 -0800 2012: > On 03/02/2012 07:34 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php53eol > > I discussed with Arne Blankerts and Stefan Priebsch over breakfast today > and Stefan had an interesting idea: why not announce (now) that PHP 5.3 > will go into EOL a year after PHP 5.5 comes out? > > * Now until PHP 5.5 comes out: bug and security fixes for PHP 5.3 > * From the release of PHP 5.5: security fixes for PHP 5.3 for a year > > Ideally, PHP 5.5 would be out in a year from now, so it would come down > to one year of bug and security fixes and one year of security fixes > only. Makes sense to me. > Just chiming in from the Ubuntu side of things. I think this is the most predictable, and helpful plan for users and for distributors. From the user standpoint, its quite useful to know where you stand for upgrade path. This should make conservative users comfortable with using 5.3 on existing projects until 5.5 enters RC phase, and then they can start evaluating their options to move to 5.5 or 5.4, as they know they'll have a whole year to evaluate 5.5. If you put a clock on 5.3, and 5.5 slips for legitimate reasons, then they'll be stuck with 5.4 only, and you may actually *miss* the opportunity to get people on the latest release. From a distribution standpoint, anything that lengthens the amount of time that PHP as a project fully supports a release makes our burden smaller, and gives our users a better chance at having stable software for the entire life of our LTS releases. Selfish, I know, but just stating the obvious fact.