Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:58487 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 67313 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2012 14:00:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Mar 2012 14:00:37 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=simonsimcity@googlemail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=simonsimcity@googlemail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain googlemail.com designates 209.85.210.42 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: simonsimcity@googlemail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.210.42 mail-pz0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.210.42] ([209.85.210.42:57078] helo=mail-pz0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E0/00-11220-18CC05F4 for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 08:34:58 -0500 Received: by dang27 with SMTP id g27so2366822dan.29 for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 05:34:54 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of simonsimcity@googlemail.com designates 10.68.197.228 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.68.197.228; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of simonsimcity@googlemail.com designates 10.68.197.228 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=simonsimcity@googlemail.com; dkim=pass header.i=simonsimcity@googlemail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.68.197.228]) by 10.68.197.228 with SMTP id ix4mr15547469pbc.101.1330695294896 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 02 Mar 2012 05:34:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=tPasUrLgUypw2emaqYJGCSl+r1e99LNsZ501LSd7+Ng=; b=kXHWAe3QktA82ZMCTTrQzq711u+crvNboau2a2c12qkdjE0XhDjxvJ/66wLk38IfbC m5mRRp1vaRTJVPK99Ecg/kvUCwWI0Ji6OZ9IGot/JiPShnJNgh241s0flHyYlRqFB8vi M+5zXueAZsrzJgZvdPweFDAKbj/SksFZyefABcB9S1AgvHH8o6cSOpSclmxp4bnIsCUm fE8wy2CffFVFmyRKz/u7gpZ3VILN0aaKWK10wOOWkw7c8+UTDZfWPX9oXKAQAZX4oXtt 6RfmDnTifO7yAdFTqGwWFi4LDdNStTN6zuED57DGmAVdYIaM0LhQA3axN2f2EyUl8BPN YZfQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.197.228 with SMTP id ix4mr13024299pbc.101.1330695294799; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 05:34:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.37.38 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Mar 2012 05:34:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 14:34:54 +0100 Message-ID: To: Adam Harvey Cc: Gustavo Lopes , Pierre Joye , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff1c83659cda004ba42a49e Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] discussions, about a 5.3 EOL From: simonsimcity@googlemail.com (Simon Schick) --e89a8ff1c83659cda004ba42a49e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, all It's really hard to make a decision here because you also have to care about big companies in one way, that have not updated to PHP 5.3 now ... But instead of that I read some posts from November last year that they have PHP6 in their control-panel, what is basically PHP 5.4 beta ... One or two years is way to short if you'd ask me. A major release should be supported with all kind of bug fixes for min. 3 years after a new release has been brought out. Specially if it's a wide-spread language like PHP that has been implemented by such big and lazy companies. Please do not misunderstand that. Lazy is not meant in the way that they are doing nothing, but that it takes way more time as it does for me installing a new PHP version on my 2-3 servers. Bye Simon 2012/3/2 Adam Harvey > On 2 March 2012 21:05, Gustavo Lopes wrote: > > Fair enough. Option #1 seems the most appropriate then. The others seem > too > > drastic to implement with such short notice. > > +1. We can't drop bug fixes immediately without warning, and I don't > think the overhead of backporting security fixes is too onerous for > one additional year, particularly in light of how significant a > release PHP 5.3 was. > > Adam > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --e89a8ff1c83659cda004ba42a49e--