Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:58423 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 92880 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2012 20:09:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Mar 2012 20:09:11 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain nebm.ist.utl.pt from 193.136.128.22 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt X-Host-Fingerprint: 193.136.128.22 smtp2.ist.utl.pt Linux 2.6 Received: from [193.136.128.22] ([193.136.128.22:47813] helo=smtp2.ist.utl.pt) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2B/11-19316-467DF4F4 for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 15:09:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.ist.utl.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE4570004A7; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 20:09:05 +0000 (WET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.6.4 (20090625) (Debian) at ist.utl.pt Received: from smtp2.ist.utl.pt ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp2.ist.utl.pt [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with LMTP id lpo9CvZWNv0W; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 20:09:05 +0000 (WET) Received: from mail2.ist.utl.pt (mail.ist.utl.pt [IPv6:2001:690:2100:1::8]) by smtp2.ist.utl.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC607000495; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 20:09:04 +0000 (WET) Received: from damnation.mshome.net (damnation.nl.lo.geleia.net [IPv6:2001:470:94a2:4:4866:11bc:1688:8089]) (Authenticated sender: ist155741) by mail2.ist.utl.pt (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EDD73200881E; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 20:09:02 +0000 (WET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Kris Craig" Cc: "PHP internals" References: <693e15008681dfe7372eaea66214f8a8.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06AC3152C6C@il-ex2.zend.net> <887FE7CFF6F8DE4BB3A9535F53AFD06AC3152F5D@il-ex2.zend.net> <43409D28-75AC-4E9C-A0EA-66FC1DB9FAE7@gmail.com> <4F4F3A96.8080408@lsces.co.uk> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 21:08:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: =?utf-8?Q?N=C3=BAcleo_de_Eng=2E_Biom=C3=A9di?= =?utf-8?Q?ca_do_I=2ES=2ET=2E?= Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.61 (Win32) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Scalar type hinting From: glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt ("Gustavo Lopes") On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 20:51:17 +0100, Kris Craig wrote: > @Lester Well there's another logical fallacy. How, exactly, am I trying > to "force" this on anyone? Last time I checked, the PHP community has a > voting process that requires a 2/3 majority for anything touching the > code. Also, last time I checked, there are numerous people who do want > this, so I would definitely dispute some of the claims that this is "dead > in the water" so-to-speak. > > [...] Seeing the same issues relitigated all over again in absurdly long threads is annoying, but seeing these meta-discussions is exasperating (I've lost the count of the number of e-mails just speculating about the likelihood of success of such a proposal). So please, by all means come up with an actual proposal (implementation included) and take it to a vote, but stop these meta-discussions and avoid recycling arguments just so you can have the last word. -- Gustavo Lopes