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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Scalar type hinting
From: johncrenshaw@priacta.com (John Crenshaw)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kris Craig [mailto:kris.craig@gmail.com]=20
>
> @Richard I think you made a very good point.  Should we treat a float =3D=
> int mismatch the same as we would a string =3D> int mismatch, or should t=
he former fail more gracefully?  I can see good arguments for both.
>
> --Kris

I'm beginning to think that the type hinting question is too closely relate=
d to the dirty secrets of type juggling to resolve them separately. You may=
 have to either discard consistency, or else fix the problem of silent biza=
rre conversions at the same time ('foo'=3D=3D0, '123abc'=3D123). Fixing the=
 conversions is a BC break though.

John Crenshaw
Priacta, Inc.