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Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:18:49 +0100
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To: "William A. Rowe Jr." <wrowe@rowe-clan.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] pecl, zts, non-zts, fastcgi and Apache
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

hi Bill,

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:29 PM, William A. Rowe Jr.
<wrowe@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
> On 2/28/2012 3:41 PM, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
>> On 02/28/2012 02:44 PM, Christopher Jones wrote:
>>> Build PHP with ZTS enabled by default. Allow it to be explicitly
>>> disabled during 'configure'
>>
>> =A0Why punish everyone by default because of Apache? Does not make sense=
 to
>> =A0me.
>
> What is so difficult to grok about

Nothing, but it is easier to get a point when the rhetorical comments
are removed :)

> =A01. setting up php-cgi to use fastcgi as the httpd default.
>
> =A02. having parallel non-zts and zts installs of php (notably with only
> =A0 =A0non-zts cli and cgi sapi's) with two different lib paths. =A0Multi=
ply
> =A0 =A0by two again if you have parallel i686 and x86_64 installs.
>
> All of these are packager's questions anyways, as so few users do this
> for themself, most hosters aren't rebuilding php either.

Right, and that's a rather big change, package wised. While the
lbraries (systems) are the same, at lest for 99.99% of them. There are
a few which can be built in TS or not TS mode but I don't think it is
worth it.

> PHP would be a much nicer, friendly and more civilized development list
> if it borrowed only one phrase from the Perl community; TMTOWTDI.

Civilized sounds very wrong in this context, or in general these days.

Cheers,
--=20
Pierre

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