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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] pecl, zts, non-zts, fastcgi and Apache
From: christopher.jones@oracle.com (Christopher Jones)



On 02/28/2012 02:29 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
> On 2/28/2012 3:41 PM, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
>> On 02/28/2012 02:44 PM, Christopher Jones wrote:
>>> Build PHP with ZTS enabled by default. Allow it to be explicitly
>>> disabled during 'configure'
>>
>>   Why punish everyone by default because of Apache? Does not make sense to
>>   me.
>
> What is so difficult to grok about
>
>   1. setting up php-cgi to use fastcgi as the httpd default.
>
>   2. having parallel non-zts and zts installs of php (notably with only
>      non-zts cli and cgi sapi's) with two different lib paths.  Multiply
>      by two again if you have parallel i686 and x86_64 installs.
>
> All of these are packager's questions anyways, as so few users do this
> for themself, most hosters aren't rebuilding php either.
>
> PHP would be a much nicer, friendly and more civilized development list
> if it borrowed only one phrase from the Perl community; TMTOWTDI.

These are useful suggestions for a future "bigger picture" direction
about sensible defaults, usability (or lack of), php-fpm, etc.  This
is a problem looking for an owner.

In the narrow confines of https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=61172 the
packager has deliberately chosen to install mod_php.  Like Sebastian,
I prefer that PHP configures itself for the currently installed Apache
MPM.

Chris

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