Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:58295 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 89369 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2012 22:29:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Feb 2012 22:29:58 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=wrowe@rowe-clan.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=wrowe@rowe-clan.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain rowe-clan.net from 64.202.165.6 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: wrowe@rowe-clan.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.202.165.6 m1plsmtpa01-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [64.202.165.6] ([64.202.165.6:51529] helo=m1plsmtpa01-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id AF/4B-36673-4655D4F4 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:29:57 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.199] ([76.252.112.72]) by m1plsmtpa01-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id faVt1i00H1Zmh9Y01aVtyt; Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:29:54 -0700 Message-ID: <4F4D5535.7000309@rowe-clan.net> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:29:09 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <5a1d155ad465d1ec2e6461f5347d859f.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> <4F4BF1C6.8010104@rowe-clan.net> <4F4C23CB.30402@oracle.com> <4F4D05FE.607@rowe-clan.net> <4F4D2EBA.6000409@oracle.com> <4F4D49ED.2020104@php.net> In-Reply-To: <4F4D49ED.2020104@php.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] pecl, zts, non-zts, fastcgi and Apache From: wrowe@rowe-clan.net ("William A. Rowe Jr.") On 2/28/2012 3:41 PM, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > On 02/28/2012 02:44 PM, Christopher Jones wrote: >> Build PHP with ZTS enabled by default. Allow it to be explicitly >> disabled during 'configure' > > Why punish everyone by default because of Apache? Does not make sense to > me. What is so difficult to grok about 1. setting up php-cgi to use fastcgi as the httpd default. 2. having parallel non-zts and zts installs of php (notably with only non-zts cli and cgi sapi's) with two different lib paths. Multiply by two again if you have parallel i686 and x86_64 installs. All of these are packager's questions anyways, as so few users do this for themself, most hosters aren't rebuilding php either. PHP would be a much nicer, friendly and more civilized development list if it borrowed only one phrase from the Perl community; TMTOWTDI.