Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:58294 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 88038 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2012 22:26:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Feb 2012 22:26:07 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ceo@l-i-e.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ceo@l-i-e.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain l-i-e.com designates 67.139.134.202 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ceo@l-i-e.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 67.139.134.202 o2.hostbaby.com FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) (2) Received: from [67.139.134.202] ([67.139.134.202:2197] helo=o2.hostbaby.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 40/0B-36673-E745D4F4 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:26:06 -0500 Received: (qmail 28706 invoked by uid 98); 28 Feb 2012 22:26:08 -0000 Received: from localhost by o2.hostbaby.com (envelope-from , uid 1013) with qmail-scanner-2.05 ( Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.037075 secs); 28 Feb 2012 22:26:08 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO www.l-i-e.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Feb 2012 22:26:07 -0000 Received: from webmail (SquirrelMail authenticated user ceo@l-i-e.com) by www.l-i-e.com with HTTP; Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:26:07 -0600 Message-ID: <4ac6cd225b889d455efca20795d24cb0.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1330357150.2159.30.camel@guybrush> <4F4C1324.2040905@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:26:07 -0600 To: "Arvids Godjuks" Cc: internals@lists.php.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Scalar type hinting From: ceo@l-i-e.com ("Richard Lynch") On Tue, February 28, 2012 3:31 am, Arvids Godjuks wrote: > I really liked what the O'Raily wrote here: > http://www.oreillynet.com/ruby/blog/2007/09/7_reasons_i_switched_back_to_p_1.html Please note that the author was a bass player in a band wanting to sell CDs online when the five (5) choices were the same brick-and-mortar major label distributors who wouldn't take his CD as he wasn't on a major label. He examined the options, and PHP was the only one that didn't make his head spin. His act of creating a single page to sell his CD online went viral, and he accidentally built a multi-million dollar company because of that. Since he'd never set out to make the money, just to help his friends (and they told 2 friends, and they told 2 friends...) he always tracked success not by not, nor gross, but by dollars paid out to artists[1] He eventually sold the company to a trust fund that goes to charity when he dies, and lives very comfortably off the interest, since he lost interest in running the company when it just got too routine.[2] If he had seen this strict/weak/strong stuff in PHP, that online CD store for the indie artists would probably not have existed for quite a long time, if ever. He's actually been online a long time, and is worth learning from, even if he never actually became a Real Programmer (tm), in his own words. PS You can find many conversations between him and me on the old, old, old PHP list before the split of the lists into -general etc. [1] http://www.cdbaby.com/About [2] http://sivers.org/trust -- brain cancer update: http://richardlynch.blogspot.com/search/label/brain%20tumor Donate: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=FS9NLTNEEKWBE