Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:58195 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 61237 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2012 21:13:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Feb 2012 21:13:20 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.49 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.49 mail-qw0-f49.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.49] ([209.85.216.49:61385] helo=mail-qw0-f49.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 6F/B6-29394-EE1FB4F4 for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:13:20 -0500 Received: by qafi29 with SMTP id i29so474385qaf.8 for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:13:16 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of tyra3l@gmail.com designates 10.224.212.134 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.224.212.134; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of tyra3l@gmail.com designates 10.224.212.134 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=tyra3l@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.224.212.134]) by 10.224.212.134 with SMTP id gs6mr12536472qab.32.1330377196175 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:13:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=syvU17EUxLkH5F8XGNnSRj9Psm254fRSJ8E9MJjeeoM=; b=lISIWaizbBk5cIz/eZ2IQUhD+M7ZqgMVlA/nRH6AvUHKB3m+mJXxxycZrC9VG1T/WN cwbgScY1OOo5153b5pcqECp6rbNMhOxIWGZGKsw/iy2jtxydvey5rkxemANlmnJlq/hC 9N2tQSR5VKV4fPitLT6uYB9cFPcj/5++PjIEg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.212.134 with SMTP id gs6mr10543221qab.32.1330377196062; Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:13:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.30.205 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:13:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1330357150.2159.30.camel@guybrush> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:13:15 +0100 Message-ID: To: Kris Craig Cc: Anthony Ferrara , Michael Morris , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf300fac4d3047fc04b9f8946a Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Scalar type hinting From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs) --20cf300fac4d3047fc04b9f8946a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Kris Craig wrote: > +1 what Anthony said. > > Guys, seriously. Some of these responses have been downright rude and > inappropriate for a constructive dialogue. Please do not pollute this > thread with cliche, "Just find another language and get out!" posts. It > doesn't add anything to the conversation and instead just creates needles= s > anger and animosity. It's immature and just makes it look like we're > incapable of having a rational discussion. > > So, let me outline a list of "arguments" that will carry ZERO weight on > this thread: > > - "If you don't like PHP as it is, goto Java (or some other language)!= " > - "We've already talked about this before. Therefore, we must never > speak of it again." > - "This is impossible. Why? Because I said so. You want evidence? > Fuck you." > - "But this would require significant changes to the core source > code! We'd never be able to find enough sacrificial penguins to appea= se > the gods!" > - "Anyone who likes this idea is either stupid or not a 'true' PHP > developer." > - "If you disagree with me, it means you haven't done your homework > because I'm always right." > - "Strict typing would break everything! What? You're not talking > about C-like strict typing? Sorry, I didn't catch that. Strict typin= g > would break everything!...." > - "I don't care if you've already countered my argument. I'll just > keep repeating myself as if you didn't." > > > Variations of the above statements have been posted ad nauseum. They're > all based on logical fallacies and are not constructive. > > I'm putting this out there: If anyone posts one or more of the above > arguments yet again on this topic, I will personally extract one of your > kidneys and sell it to a questionable "dog food" company in Shanghai. I > will then openly mock your intellectual laziness and encourage people to > ignore you. ;P > > > I'd love to prove Daniel wrong, but I think he may be on to something.... > :\ > > it is weird that you are calling others rude. I'm sure you would feel hurt/personally attacked, if somebody would create a similar list of the little bit twisted arguments of yours. could we stay on the topic? another 14 mails to read. :/ --=20 Ferenc Kov=C3=A1cs @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu --20cf300fac4d3047fc04b9f8946a--