Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:58047 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 75017 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2012 23:09:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Feb 2012 23:09:16 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=bostjan@a2o.si; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=bostjan@a2o.si; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain a2o.si designates 195.246.8.45 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: bostjan@a2o.si X-Host-Fingerprint: 195.246.8.45 mail.creatim.com Received: from [195.246.8.45] ([195.246.8.45:40023] helo=wizard.servers.creatim.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1E/A2-17132-998184F4 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:09:14 -0500 Received: from undisclosed (undisclosed [127.0.0.254]) (Authenticated sender: undisclosed) by wizard.servers.creatim.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8FB537301E5 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:09:10 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at wizard Received: by wgbdq12 with SMTP id dq12so2383998wgb.11 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:09:09 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of bostjan@a2o.si designates 10.216.137.147 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.216.137.147; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of bostjan@a2o.si designates 10.216.137.147 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=bostjan@a2o.si Received: from mr.google.com ([10.216.137.147]) by 10.216.137.147 with SMTP id y19mr2285911wei.5.1330124949916 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:09:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.137.147 with SMTP id y19mr1829750wei.5.1330124949892; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:09:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.106.161 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:09:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4F47E90E.9040701@oracle.com> <4F47EBBE.2010202@sugarcrm.com> <4F47EEE3.90108@oracle.com> <4F47F72C.7040605@php.net> <4F47FF63.5020909@lsces.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:09:09 +0100 Message-ID: To: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502caea252ff004b9bdd923 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Apache 2.4 support in PHP 5.4.0? From: bostjan@a2o.si (Bostjan Skufca) --00504502caea252ff004b9bdd923 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Despite the fact that Apache HTTPD's website says that 2.4.1 "represents the best available version of Apache HTTP Server", and that PHP 5.4.0 will probably also bear similar notation (guesswork here!), very few (if any!) production environments are going to even bother considering running first minor version of any major release. For both, they will probably wait for 2.4.2(-5) and 5.4.1(-4) because with every major release there is a high suspicion about new bugs that may have been introduced during the development process (besides the documented backwards compatibility breaks). Given all above, no serious user of Apache+PHP will mind if PHP team introduces necesary code changes into PHP between versions 5.4.0 and 5.4.1, in order to support Apache Httpd 2.4.x in 5.4.x releases later on. Again, why? Because they will skip 5.4.0 in production. And 2.4.1 too. My 2 cents, b. On 24 February 2012 22:31, Kris Craig wrote: > Regardless, I think this part of the conversation is pointless. I > personally couldn't care less whether anybody thinks we're supporting new > Apache builds quickly enough or whose fault it is if the newest one doesn't > make it into the current build. The finger pointing is just a petty > distraction that we really don't need since our attention should be focused > on getting 5.4.0 out the door. > > So let's just set all that crap aside, ok? All that matters right now is > that this is an important solution but it still needs to be tested, and > therefore won't be ready in time for the 5.4.0 release. Therefore, let's > get this committed to the trunk and be done with it. Then, once 5.4.0 is > finally released, this 2.4 support can be tested alongside all the other > things that will be going into 5.4.1 via our normal process. Problem > solved. =) > > --Kris > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > > > Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > > > >> Maybe it just shows that less and less people care about Apache, > >> > > > > We have just taken over another small web hosting company ... first job > > move all of the windows/ASP sites on to the local Apache/PHP framework > > servers so we can add all the feature the customers have been clamouring > > for. And then scrap the outsourced windows hosting :) It will save a lot > of > > money each month and get some of the speed back which has been a problem > > for them recently. > > There are more than enough people who only care for Apache and only use > > that, 66% of the worlds sites ... > > > > -- > > Lester Caine - G8HFL > > ----------------------------- > > Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=**contact< > http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact> > > L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk > > EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ > > Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// > > Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/**index.php< > http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php> > > > > > > -- > > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > --00504502caea252ff004b9bdd923--