Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:57704 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 53672 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2012 15:51:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Feb 2012 15:51:50 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain nebm.ist.utl.pt from 193.136.128.22 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt X-Host-Fingerprint: 193.136.128.22 smtp2.ist.utl.pt Linux 2.6 Received: from [193.136.128.22] ([193.136.128.22:36967] helo=smtp2.ist.utl.pt) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 18/70-08838-5145D2F4 for ; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:51:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.ist.utl.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id C011B7000452 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2012 15:51:45 +0000 (WET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.6.4 (20090625) (Debian) at ist.utl.pt Received: from smtp2.ist.utl.pt ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp2.ist.utl.pt [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with LMTP id Cmq79C23DENj for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2012 15:51:45 +0000 (WET) Received: from nebm.ist.utl.pt (unknown [IPv6:2001:690:2100:4::58:1]) by smtp2.ist.utl.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82149700044E for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2012 15:51:45 +0000 (WET) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=nebm.ist.utl.pt) by nebm.ist.utl.pt with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rthtx-0007vj-FE for internals@lists.php.net; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 15:51:45 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2012 16:51:45 +0100 To: Organization: =?UTF-8?Q?N=C3=BAcleo_de_Engenharia_Biom=C3=A9dica_do_Insti?= =?UTF-8?Q?tuto_Superior_T=C3=A9cnico?= In-Reply-To: References: <5FB5CFDA-6FE8-4C20-A9B9-7844ED96659B@nopiracy.de> <4F2A9378.70803@thelounge.net> <4F2AC9CA.2070308@sugarcrm.com> <4F2B2ED8.4050900@jimdo.com> <72878E6C-4C17-4D94-9F73-1446769247E1@nopiracy.de> <4F2CEA7E.9010906@sugarcrm.com> <9684A843-5A7F-43BB-BFC2-86F34E27EC3B@nopiracy.de> Message-ID: X-Sender: glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.5.3 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Suhosin patch disabled by default in Debian php5 builds From: glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt (Gustavo Lopes) On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 10:25:21 +0100, Stefan Esser wrote: > See you do it again. You claim I believe EMET has been created > because of Suhosin. I never said that. Although one of the lead > developers of EMET compared it himself to it. > You know some features of Suhosin are already in PHP and the HTTP > response splitting drama shows that when you break it there is a > secondary layer of defense that protects you in case you use Suhosin. > Curious choice of words, because the "drama" was entirely fabricated by you. What could have been an e-mail pointing a fairly trivial (even if somewhat negligent) bug became an absurd verbiage complete with an imagined narrative (!), paternalist tone, assumptions about me and the rest of the developers, futurology and inductive fallacies. I'm happy that you commented on the issue, not only because of the bug you pointed out but also because of other problems (like CRLF + (SP or HT) being disallowed). But I could do without the dramatization, which just shows (see also the other thread) how pointless it is to engage with you in anything but strictly technical issues, which I'll refrain from doing from now on. -- Gustavo Lopes