Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:57699 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38867 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2012 14:21:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Feb 2012 14:21:11 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stefan@nopiracy.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stefan@nopiracy.de; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain nopiracy.de from 81.169.146.162 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stefan@nopiracy.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 81.169.146.162 mo-p00-ob.rzone.de Solaris 10 (beta) Received: from [81.169.146.162] ([81.169.146.162:52223] helo=mo-p00-ob.rzone.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 83/DE-08838-5DE3D2F4 for ; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 09:21:10 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1328365266; l=863; s=domk; d=nopiracy.de; h=To:References:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:From: Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=ZTLgqXH5zrueakWdSEqZRALXTlY=; b=yj96jTgyea5GNN/uavT4JMLYCeyxq+4zfluxO44eO/Kivz2xWnod71fUa6MRccrQjsz 2BRRhZdhywpNyJujzfPoBWQEcPS8qECCAsA/nIdP3HNAqI8kdz23UjBSwbitDNMjojo1s ejzSraUw0fIOujTPjYvO1+ogLpx7+IXD1fw= X-RZG-AUTH: :OH4FY0Wkd/plSHgwfKFIgHoVYx5SSathkA9OvI+ii+JXGfvQUzm/Ahii7iullNGyVg== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Received: from [10.23.17.42] (cable-78-34-71-151.netcologne.de [78.34.71.151]) by post.strato.de (mrclete mo44) (RZmta 27.6 DYNA|AUTH) with (AES128-SHA encrypted) ESMTPA id j0495co14CQ7ll ; Sat, 4 Feb 2012 15:20:26 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 15:20:26 +0100 Cc: Stas Malyshev , Soenke Ruempler - Jimdo , PHP internals , "security@php.net" , "zigo@debian.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <90A22109-8267-4C6F-B35C-0A3612213915@nopiracy.de> References: <5FB5CFDA-6FE8-4C20-A9B9-7844ED96659B@nopiracy.de> <4F2A9378.70803@thelounge.net> <4F2AC9CA.2070308@sugarcrm.com> <4F2B2ED8.4050900@jimdo.com> <72878E6C-4C17-4D94-9F73-1446769247E1@nopiracy.de> <4F2CEA7E.9010906@sugarcrm.com> <9684A843-5A7F-43BB-BFC2-86F34E27EC3B@nopiracy.de> To: Pierre Joye X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Suhosin patch disabled by default in Debian php5 builds From: stefan@nopiracy.de (Stefan Esser) Pierre, > Why do you need a RFC to propose something to the W3C, or python? Even > if it is widely adopted already. No need to answer, that's rather > obvious. you still fail to realize that I don't want to propose (anything) to = you. If you love writing RFCs then write some. I am perfectly satisfied with people having the choice to just use my = stuff or not. I do not need to write RFCs to make PHP more secure in the future. = Instead people have TODAY the choice to just install Suhosin and get = that extra bit of security. I am merely informing people that from my point of view (and most people = in the web security community agree) using PHP without Suhosin is a bad = choice. And If you disagree that is your problem. By lobbying against Suhosin = you are not hurting me or Suhosin, you are hurting the internet. -stefan=