Newsgroups: php.internals
Path: news.php.net
Xref: news.php.net php.internals:57596
Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm
Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.199.177.89 as permitted sender)
To: =?UTF-8?Q?Ond=C5=99ej_Sur=C3=BD?= <ondrej@sury.org>
CC: Debian PHP Maintainers <pkg-php-maint@lists.alioth.debian.org>, PHP
 internals <internals@lists.php.net>
In-Reply-To: <CALjhHG-p-wx37h5QGsx=i5arCt6Nv=8-YFN_G31okKgqFABfjA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALjhHG-p-wx37h5QGsx=i5arCt6Nv=8-YFN_G31okKgqFABfjA@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 13:24:42 +0200
Message-ID: <1328095482.27965.116.camel@pc-liork>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Uploading 5.4 RC to unstable (Was: Upcoming
 transition of php5 to 5.4)
From: lior.k@zend.com (Lior Kaplan)

Hi Ond=C5=99ej,

I'd wait for RC7 in any case, and with some luck it will be the final RC
for 5.4.0.

With my Debian hat on, I would wait for the official release, as to
minimize the noise we'll get in Debian from testing RCs. The recent RCs
all had some major issues fixed/changed in them (which is better to test
with dedicated people than the general users of Debian).

Kaplan

On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 11:11 +0100, Ond=C5=99ej Sur=C3=BD wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> I was thinking that it could be a good idea (after current version migr=
ates
> to testing) to upload 5.4RCx to unstable to begin work on transition as=
 soon
> as possible. RC releases should have stable API(?), so application wise
> there's no problem. I'll fill a release critical bug in our BTS, so
> the 5.4 version
> don't migrate to testing and close it with stable 5.4.0 release.
>=20
> Ccing PHP internals to let them know and ask if it is a good idea (the =
5.4RC
> will be probably used by more people when uploaded to Debian unstable, =
i.e.
> it means more testing, but also more bugreports).
>=20
> O.
>=20
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ond=C5=99ej Sur=C3=BD <ondrej@sury.org>
> Date: Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 08:40
> Subject: Upcoming transition of php5 to 5.4
> To: Debian Release <debian-release@lists.debian.org>
>=20
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> this is just a heads up that we would like to ship wheezy with php5 5.4
> which is in upstream RC phase now (and in debian-experimental).
>=20
> It introduce a couple of incompatible changes (for a full list see atta=
ched
> UPGRADING file), most notably (not listing minor changes and added feat=
ures):
> - default charset is now utf-8
> - magic_quotes are deprecated (with warning)
> - safe_mode and register_globals was removed
> - three new reserved words: callable, insteadof and trait
> - multibyte support is now default
> - removed syntax (break $var, continue $var)
> - sqlite(1) extension was removed (already done in php5.3 in Debian)
>=20
> I am inclined to let the current php5 in unstable to transition to test=
ing
> and then upload next 5.4.0 RC to unstable with transition blocking bug,
> so we can start testing existing software as soon as possible.
>=20
> I also plan to provide "official" backports for Debian squeeze, so peop=
le
> can come and test new php5.4 before they upgrade to wheezy.
>=20
> Final note: We already had similar transitions in php (4->5, 5.2->5.3, =
etc.),
> so it's not really a big deal, but it will require some amount of work =
hence
> this email.
>=20
> Ondrej
> P.S.: Please Cc: me as I am not subscribed to the list (but I do check
> the web archives).
> --
> =EF=BB=BFOnd=C5=99ej Sur=C3=BD <ondrej@sury.org>
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> =EF=BB=BFOnd=C5=99ej Sur=C3=BD <ondrej@sury.org>
>=20