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Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 16:02:27 +0100
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To: Dmitri Snytkine <dsnytkine@ultralogistics.com>
Cc: Alain Williams <addw@phcomp.co.uk>, internals@lists.php.net
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Return Type Hinting for Methods RFC
From: nikita.ppv@googlemail.com (Nikita Popov)

Could we maybe keep this discussion contained to return value type
hints please? Optional variable type hinting is a completely different
topic that would require a separate RFC and implementation. If you are
interested in this you can propose a RFC for this.

Nikita

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Dmitri Snytkine
<dsnytkine@ultralogistics.com> wrote:
> I never said to make it mandatory, only to make it available. Just like t=
he
> type hinting of function call is optional but not mandatory, which is a b=
ig
> advantage over Java in my opinion.
> After all, if you make return type hinting mandatory, it would break 100%=
 of
> all existing php scripts.
>
> To clarify I am asking to make type hinting for variable declaration an
> available option.
>
> Dmitri Snytkine
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alain Williams [mailto:addw@phcomp.co.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:52 AM
> To: internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Return Type Hinting for Methods RFC
>
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 03:33:40PM +0100, Sebastian Krebs wrote:
>
>> > private \ArrayObject $customers;
>> >
>>
>> Once more "Why is PHP not Java?"
>
> That comment confuses matters. People use PHP for all sorts of reasons, t=
he
> desire to tighten up in some places, on some occasions, should not be
> treated
> with derision.
>
> Tighter declarations, or any declarations at all, would not be mandatory.=
 It
> would
> be something that some projects might want to do. It would be nice if thi=
s
> could be
> done on a module but module basis ... eg the implementors of a class libr=
ary
> might
> want to be really strict while allowing the class users to not be strict.
>
> Just because Java has a feature that you appear to not like, does not mea=
n
> that
> others might not want it in some circumstances.
>
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