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Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:33:40 +0100
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Return Type Hinting for Methods RFC
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2011/12/22 Dmitri Snytkine <dsnytkine@ultralogistics.com>

> The return type hinting is probably the biggest thing happening in php in a
> long time.
> Is this too good to be true?
>
> With return type hinting I can see a huge improvenets in php IDEs in
> spotting errors. Also it will be much easier to auto generate wsdl files
> when return types are known to a compiler.
> These are just to name a couple of important benefits that can come out of
> it.
>
> What I don't see is any discussion of being able to declare the type of
> variable, you now, like in Java.
> ie:
> private \ArrayObject $customers;
>

Once more "Why is PHP not Java?"


>
> Also, is there an implicit "void" return type?
>
> I hope that declaring types of variables will be added too because without
> it, this feature is not all that useful.
>
> Dmitri Snytkine
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Fitch [mailto:will.fitch@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 5:29 PM
> To: Pierre Joye
> Cc: Nikita Popov; PHP Developers Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Return Type Hinting for Methods RFC
>
> Hi Pierre and Nikita,
>
> I have added callable to the patch and updated the RFC entry to reflect the
> changes. Please verify and let me know if you have any issues.
>
> On Dec 21, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Pierre Joye wrote:
>
> > hi Will,
> >
> > You should add it now, while 5.4 final is not released yet, this
> > feature exists already and should be part of the RFC, to be complete.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Will Fitch <will.fitch@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Hi Nikita,
> >>
> >> I didn't add that as it's not yet in production.  As soon as things are
> finalized and 5.4 is GA, I will gladly add the callable type hint.  The
> change wouldn't be different from parameter type hinting, and can easily be
> added.
> >>
> >> On Dec 21, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Nikita Popov wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Will!
> >>>
> >>> One random thought I had while reading the RFC is: What about the
> >>> newly introduced callable typehint? Is this missing by intention? I
> >>> could well imagine so (because it's hard to check what scope
> >>> callability should be checked on), but wanted to be sure on that.
> >>>
> >>> Nikita
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:09 AM, Will Fitch <will.fitch@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> Hello All,
> >>>>
> >>>> I would like to submit https://wiki.php.net/rfc/returntypehint2 into
> discussion.  A link to the patch for this is provided and can be ran
> against
> the current HEAD.
> >>>>
> >>>> There is an older entry still in existence, but this patch is
> syntactically different.  The older entry is located at
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/typechecking and is bundled with parameter,
> scalars, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> If possible, can someone promote this to the "Under Discussion"
> category within https://wiki.php.net/rfc?
> >>>>
> >>>> -- Will
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