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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Return Type Hinting for Methods RFC
From: dsnytkine@Ultralogistics.com ("Dmitri Snytkine")

The return type hinting is probably the biggest thing happening in php in a
long time.
Is this too good to be true?

With return type hinting I can see a huge improvenets in php IDEs in
spotting errors. Also it will be much easier to auto generate wsdl files
when return types are known to a compiler.
These are just to name a couple of important benefits that can come out of
it.

What I don't see is any discussion of being able to declare the type of
variable, you now, like in Java.
ie: 
private \ArrayObject $customers;

Also, is there an implicit "void" return type?

I hope that declaring types of variables will be added too because without
it, this feature is not all that useful. 

Dmitri Snytkine
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-----Original Message-----
From: Will Fitch [mailto:will.fitch@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 5:29 PM
To: Pierre Joye
Cc: Nikita Popov; PHP Developers Mailing List
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Return Type Hinting for Methods RFC

Hi Pierre and Nikita,

I have added callable to the patch and updated the RFC entry to reflect the
changes. Please verify and let me know if you have any issues.

On Dec 21, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Pierre Joye wrote:

> hi Will,
> 
> You should add it now, while 5.4 final is not released yet, this
> feature exists already and should be part of the RFC, to be complete.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Will Fitch <will.fitch@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Nikita,
>> 
>> I didn't add that as it's not yet in production.  As soon as things are
finalized and 5.4 is GA, I will gladly add the callable type hint.  The
change wouldn't be different from parameter type hinting, and can easily be
added.
>> 
>> On Dec 21, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Nikita Popov wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Will!
>>> 
>>> One random thought I had while reading the RFC is: What about the
>>> newly introduced callable typehint? Is this missing by intention? I
>>> could well imagine so (because it's hard to check what scope
>>> callability should be checked on), but wanted to be sure on that.
>>> 
>>> Nikita
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:09 AM, Will Fitch <will.fitch@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> 
>>>> I would like to submit https://wiki.php.net/rfc/returntypehint2 into
discussion.  A link to the patch for this is provided and can be ran against
the current HEAD.
>>>> 
>>>> There is an older entry still in existence, but this patch is
syntactically different.  The older entry is located at
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/typechecking and is bundled with parameter,
scalars, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> If possible, can someone promote this to the "Under Discussion"
category within https://wiki.php.net/rfc?
>>>> 
>>>> -- Will
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