Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:56886 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 99727 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2011 14:00:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Dec 2011 14:00:14 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.213.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.170 mail-yx0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.170] ([209.85.213.170:62456] helo=mail-yx0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id BE/E2-17834-CE806EE4 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:00:13 -0500 Received: by yenl6 with SMTP id l6so4498087yen.29 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 06:00:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=4gwgsA452tPjjDvjElUMsQuDnq6Jpr62JgLXJnZui7I=; b=fyQ67LRZ22cKyPKNEUajQONo//5hqS2FWXGYQty1L5OVCYsnWPP0qQlxGdCAM+vOxN PdJ5ftZvKhRApHQSMAfF1awfAdyCLrBj4y4w2QzRBfc+4gT3G2PXNK5QnUFvmQbk313L 0wiyFJWMeFzFWSa+bPuNto2AmyGfM4mdYNwxo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.128.197 with SMTP id f45mr19118417yhi.44.1323698405852; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 06:00:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.146.204.6 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 06:00:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:00:05 +0100 Message-ID: To: Evert Pot Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Local time zone From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) hi, On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Evert Pot wrote: > The 'guess' in the function-name should be enough of a warning. People who opt-in to this behaviour explicitly comply to the possible inaccuracy of the result. I would be one of those people, and as much as it may disturb you; I feel I'm not alone. It is totally unreliable and has caused so many troubles (and consumed many of our debugging time). See this ML archive for the various discussions, or bugs.php.net. I do not think it is too much asking to an admin to setup the correct default timezone in php.ini on install, or to allow users to set it for their virtual hosts via the usual interface. In short, the amount of troubles on our side (support) is not worth it, in comparison to what it takes to have a sane setup. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org