Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:56254 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 71632 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2011 21:17:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Nov 2011 21:17:52 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.161.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.170 mail-gx0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.170] ([209.85.161.170:37922] helo=mail-gx0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9C/A0-00436-E7F3CBE4 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:17:51 -0500 Received: by ggnk4 with SMTP id k4so3953081ggn.29 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 13:17:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=z7DXUfNmkqikFOuuBFYxjANdF4ZF3Xl9kNN5YtTfQs4=; b=j1LrHF+yf9HByQR9UGxotvCaxSFtr4WJ7VRUEg1z7GTbYmae6/wxHvHLmRblD+Z0ea 3jbg8idJb0snea28jwa1PIHgwcAobulJ4iy5S9gboKPEN1hViEQbY2DtEwq1mCtQjD8o 7XZi9sW5Bxbkn+HCugwSxnWAearN+onSDto1I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.147.15.21 with SMTP id s21mr567506yai.31.1320959868145; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 13:17:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.147.113.15 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 13:17:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EBC2E68.7010403@lerdorf.com> References: <4EBADCE4.9030702@sugarcrm.com> <4EBAF5D8.40608@sugarcrm.com> <4EBB5847.50400@lerdorf.com> <4EBBFE8B.40308@lerdorf.com> <4EBC1564.8090600@lerdorf.com> <4EBC2E68.7010403@lerdorf.com> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 22:17:48 +0100 Message-ID: To: Rasmus Lerdorf Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] who can vote From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > On 11/10/2011 10:38 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: >> >>> We are not talking about a specific RFC here. This discussion is about >>> changing the current way of voting. >> >> Yes, and that's what I'm talking about too. > > Ok, then I guess I don't understand what your argument is. We already > agreed that leaders of large projects get a vote and the voting RFC > (which you helped write) is quite clear that language changes need a 2/3 > majority to pass but 50%+1 for other changes. Could you please clearly > state what it is you want to change then? Because so far to me it sounds > a bit like you are simply beating up on the people who chose to vote > differently from you on this latest RFC. It is clear to me and I get the feeling here, with Tyrael's thread and Stas arguments that this agreement is all of a sudden invalid. And that's where I so strongly disagree. If that's not the case, and after a 2nd thought, it is actually not the case, then we can just discard this whole thread and go back to code and proposals. I only find very disturbing to have to explain and argue so many times about that only because we have a edge case in a proposal (which is perfectly valid, that happens, show must go on). Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org