Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:56242 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 45677 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2011 18:47:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Nov 2011 18:47:00 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=larry@garfieldtech.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=larry@garfieldtech.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain garfieldtech.com from 66.111.4.26 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: larry@garfieldtech.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 66.111.4.26 out2.smtp.messagingengine.com Received: from [66.111.4.26] ([66.111.4.26:57992] helo=out2.smtp.messagingengine.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CF/FD-01205-12C1CBE4 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 13:46:57 -0500 Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7348C213A4 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 13:46:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 10 Nov 2011 13:46:54 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=m/1/LQBHo8A8g7YwLrXqQW z5OdI=; b=c4NEo32I00/Vv/moMNw0y4gGu/yTfddLvzkvXcCuHkHspEyiziEKwo DzWxDpauUTGNwbv9pzG2F8FgbAfSSbKxSoGZ0y+cjgmFxzNSLfmfTpfc9G1Hb+lx Qnl/BvQZv+Bb5aikhQX36+m9kvUENygzhbtukfHoLVw6jUfPy8JHY= X-Sasl-enc: jU+Z6+57e2b84xCM1Bq0jPNfqFd+OG/onU4mxQ46+WkF 1320950814 Received: from garfield.ad.palantir.net (unknown [209.41.114.202]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 37EB14824D2 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 13:46:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4EBC1C1D.2000004@garfieldtech.com> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 12:46:53 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <-4079824451837834664@unknownmsgid> <4EBB7A7B.9030303@sugarcrm.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] SplClassLoader RFC Voting phase From: larry@garfieldtech.com (Larry Garfield) On 11/10/11 8:19 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > What amazes me is this exact argument. We never had, in the whole PHP > history, so many leading projects agreeing on something, together and > propose it to the core. I, for one, have been waiting for that to > happen for years (PEAR, etc.), and now that it is happening, what do > we do? 'No thanks', for whatever reasons. That's so wrong. Actually it's the second. The first big agreement was GoPHP5, which is how we finally buried PHP 4. :-) Sadly that momentum didn't continue (in part my fault). --Larry Garfield