Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:56225 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 82235 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2011 13:13:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Nov 2011 13:13:08 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jbondc@openmv.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jbondc@openmv.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain openmv.com from 64.15.152.204 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jbondc@openmv.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.15.152.204 mail.ca.gdesolutions.com Received: from [64.15.152.204] ([64.15.152.204:55825] helo=mail.ca.gdesolutions.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 66/E1-01205-1EDCBBE4 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 08:13:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ca.gdesolutions.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A795DCD; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 08:13:02 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gdesolutions.com Received: from mail.ca.gdesolutions.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.ca.gdesolutions.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Cqh0bA64Q4Jz; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 08:12:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from djbondc (modemcable166.116-70-69.static.videotron.ca [69.70.116.166]) by mail.ca.gdesolutions.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 820965DCC; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 08:12:58 -0500 (EST) To: , "'Stas Malyshev'" Cc: "'Nikita Popov'" , "'PHP Internals'" References: <4EBADCE4.9030702@sugarcrm.com> <4EBAF5D8.40608@sugarcrm.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 08:12:57 -0500 Message-ID: <003f01cc9faa$77670a40$66351ec0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcyfVTNiwLLnqCSlQ06oLMZ2OokmNAAT2uVA Content-Language: en-ca Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] who can vote From: jbondc@openmv.com ("Jonathan Bond-Caron") On Wed Nov 9 10:01 PM, guilhermeblanco@gmail.com wrote: >=20 > Some would simply say "he only did that because he got 3 proposals=20 > rejected". Others would say "he is pressuring A to be in PHP". But = not. > I learned the hard way and multiple times to hear a big NO. But at the = > same time, I earn my salary from a language that is lead by people=20 > that do only what they want, not what the language really needs. PHP=20 > is a mess, everyone knows it. You have the power to change that, to=20 > make it right.=20 spl_autoload_register('SplAutoLoader'); class_exists('Foo'); // Fatal error=20 is_a('Foo', 'Bar', true); // Fatal error=20 is_subclass_of('Foo', 'Bar'); // Fatal error How exactly is PSR-0 making the language better? It's inconsistent with = what's in core. That said, I don't think there's anything wrong with bringing the = className =3D> fileMapping convention of PSR-0 in core. Small political note: I trust decision making in php to people who = understand the internals of the language (on a majority that's the core = devs). Other political note: PSR-0 seems to imply that your 'standard project' = should have a particular directory structure: https://github.com/lapistano/fig-standards/tree/compatibilityTests/ Is this right, wrong, for the better good?