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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 10:36:42 +0100
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To: Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] SplClassLoader RFC Voting phase
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

hi Stas,

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com> wrote:
> Hi!
>
>> This attitude only makes me lose a lot of time answering questions
>> instead of focusing on actual RFC stability. I want to propose
>> something stable, I do not want to be pressured about should the RFC
>> exist or not. It only delays the real voting results. What I can do to
>> address this?
>
> I would concentrate on cleaning up RFC and bringing it to some state that is
> stable and that has some consensus behind it. Right now I see many people
> are against it. So I would address the concerns raised (provided it's
> possible), refine all unclear points and then maybe try again.

The RFC is actually clean and implements PSR-0, it has been discussed
and approved by many PHP frameworks or projects. We are hiding
ourselves in the sand if we don't see that. Arguing about PSR-0 is
fine but that's not the place to do it. And as PSR-0 is already
approved, poeple with issues should bring them in the PSR-0 discussion
channel, for the next version of PSR.

But blocking the only thing so many PHP projects have ever agreed on
is a major mistake. And it is a political and religious choice
(religious as in "php does not enforce standard"). Even for something
that does not enforce anything if not used.

And as far as I can see, the RFC is approved as of now.

Cheers,
-- 
Pierre

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