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Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:56:15 -0500
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To: Anthony Ferrara <ircmaxell@php.net>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] SplClassLoader RFC Voting phase
From: will.fitch@gmail.com (Will Fitch)


On Nov 7, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Anthony Ferrara wrote:

> Well, my only concern with splitting it into the three questions is
> that the RFC specifically mentioned putting it in SPL.
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> So there wasn't really any discussion or RFC of either of the other
> two points.  While it's not really a big deal, I think that #3 at
> least requires some more discussion as it does open some doors (both
> good and bad) that are completely different from #1 or #2.
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> I don't think the voting is vague at all.  The RFC was to put the
> class loader into SPL.  So that's what's being voted on.  No more, no
> less.  Adding different options and votes at this point would at least
> partially undermine the RFC process (as in voting without time for
> comment)...
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I agree.  The push has been for adding to SPL in 5.4.  If the vote =
fails, then the RFC should be restructured to suit the needs for the =
next iteration.

> I do disagree *slightly* with the language though (I think it should
> say "Should SplClassLoader be a feature in PHP 5.4 and in SPL" instead
> of "Do you want".  Because I think there are at least some people who
> want it, but agrees that it doesn't belong in its current form (at
> least some I've talked to).  It's barely even worth pointing out, but
> since I'm writing the email anyway...
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> Just my opinion,
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> Anthony Ferrara
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> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Klaus Silveira
> <contato@klaussilveira.com> wrote:
>> I agree with Guilherme on this one. The voting objective seems very =
vague
>> currently.
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>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:29 PM, guilhermeblanco@gmail.com <
>> guilhermeblanco@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> I'd rather suggest to split this poll into 3 questions:
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>>> 1- The same as you wrote. Having it in SPL and in PHP 5.4
>>> 2- Have it in PHP 5.4 as an external extension (FIG, PSR or PSG),
>>> enabled by default.
>>> 3- As an external extension, disabled by default. This would require
>>> PHP core to reserve the namespace for us.
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>>> Cheers,
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>>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:41 AM, David Coallier <davidc@php.net> =
wrote:
>>>> Hey everyone,
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>>>> After lengthy discussions and various opinion, we believe this =
issue
>>>> has been discussed at length and the PSR-0 has had this standard
>>>> effective for the past 1.5 year.
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>>>> The SplClassLoader RFC has moved to "voting" stage. Please cast =
your
>>>> votes at https://wiki.php.net/rfc/splclassloader/vote
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>>>> Thank you very much for all the interest showed so far,
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