Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:55944 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 18574 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2011 22:42:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Oct 2011 22:42:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=h.reindl@thelounge.net; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=h.reindl@thelounge.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain thelounge.net designates 91.118.73.15 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: h.reindl@thelounge.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 91.118.73.15 mail.thelounge.net Windows 98 (1) Received: from [91.118.73.15] ([91.118.73.15:38009] helo=mail.thelounge.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F0/D4-20137-DE9E5AE4 for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:42:53 -0400 Received: from srv-rhsoft.rhsoft.net (openvpn-241.thelounge.net [10.0.0.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.thelounge.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8D38399 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:42:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4EA5E9EA.5060100@thelounge.net> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:42:50 +0200 Organization: the lounge interactive design User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110930 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <1319230096-sup-4515@fewbar.com> <1319406871-sup-6862@fewbar.com> <20111024072158.GA7086@cobija.connexer.com> <14DDCD5D-A826-439F-A834-AA3A037D216A@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.2 OpenPGP: id=7F780279; url=http://arrakis.thelounge.net/gpg/h.reindl_thelounge.net.pub.txt Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7E5263937A86B92680755B56" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [php-maint] [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.3.9 and is_a changes From: h.reindl@thelounge.net (Reindl Harald) --------------enig7E5263937A86B92680755B56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 25.10.2011 00:18, schrieb devis@lucato.it: > As a user, I would really encourage to include the latest stable 5.x an= d > provide to the community all the available 5.x upgrade during the next = 5 > years (5.4, 5.5 etc). Those 105 php apps should be maintained or remov= ed, > not used as an excuse to slow down the community the problem is that most php code out there is useless crap i maintain some hundret thousands line of codes since 10 years and did every php-upgrade even 4.x to 5.x without having more than a handful lines to optimize / replace the reason is that most developers out there too stupid to use E_ALL | E_STRICT on their machines and do not see any warnings while we have this error-level actibe on some hundret domains all scripts /applications have to run with this settings or fixed or removed from our servers - and would most developers act the same way you could easily upgrade to each php-version so crappy applications have to be removed from the distributions to prevent the neagtive impact of "never use any new features because most servers out there are for years outdated" _____________________ this is possible over years in production environment if you have not to rely on broken apps: php-5.3.8-21.fc14.rh.20110823.x86_64 mysql-5.5.17-3.fc14.rh.20111022.x86_64 postfix-2.8.6-3.fc14.rh.20111024.x86_64 --------------enig7E5263937A86B92680755B56 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6l6eoACgkQhmBjz394AnkgZwCgkYBJo42Vo7s35D1ytdrswJ0l 5BkAoIZXoOZ0QmNmOsyCUk9ZGCYy3j5w =YfBA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7E5263937A86B92680755B56--