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Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:37:16 -0200
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To: Tom Boutell <tom@punkave.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] enable mbstring by default
From: contato@klaussilveira.com (Klaus Silveira)

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I agree... in fact, most international developers don't know about this.
They expect that PHP supports unicode by default, creating faulty software.
Sad but true.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Tom Boutell <tom@punkave.com> wrote:

>  Will PHP really never, ever, ever be unicode by default? It'll always
> be a weird special case to not be from the shores of the Atlantic?
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Klaus Silveira
> <contato@klaussilveira.com> wrote:
> > What drawbacks could possibly be brought with mbstring being enabled by
> > default?
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Mike Robinson <mike@rile.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> On October-11-11 11:46 AM Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> >>
> >> > As the "full" unicode support went down with php6, wouldn't it be a
> >> > logical step to enable the mbstring extension by default(maybe even
> >> > turning it into a builtin ext like phar)?
> >> > I think that mbstring is a pretty mature and stable extension, and
> >> > there isn't much dependencies so I can't think of reason why we
> >> > couldn't do it.
> >> > Of course the mbstring.func_overload would still disabled by default
> >> > (maybe exporting the mb functions to the 'utf8' namespace? :P), so it
> >> > would be a backward compatible change.
> >> > What do you think?
> >> >
> >> > ps: maybe it is too late for 5.4, but having it in trunk is still
> >> > better than nothing.
> >>
> >> The mbstring extension was enabled by default once upon a time, if
> memory
> >> serves, and as I recall the results were extremely painful. While both
> PHP
> >> and mbstring have matured significantly since then, I'm old school that
> >> way.
> >> Fool me once...
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Mike Robinson
> >>
> >>
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