Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:55817 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 58410 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2011 10:41:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Oct 2011 10:41:00 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.213.174 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.174 mail-yx0-f174.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.174] ([209.85.213.174:56866] helo=mail-yx0-f174.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9E/13-30959-BB4BA9E4 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 06:40:59 -0400 Received: by yxp4 with SMTP id 4so2949047yxp.33 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 03:40:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XSx9q8NBJ9U33fmWhIOWn/6USxRfNsCj7Z/B8phKT6E=; b=OUMoHzCXYBVZVAI3+jhvb8oEFATrqSq3VYu0qak939u8TF8eYnR2CKamdIlDE0C2od JdnmddoiAHscgh1+gDIj/y61FrpVv3UTSg+bvxFzLoDDYrjJSPQknYS2v9GYUlJ9LB8q mwbQUwHKfVsjYU2mSEZPWXC5QSCW5r2o/w9Rc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.178.38 with SMTP id e26mr5464755yhm.31.1318761656959; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 03:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.147.170.17 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 03:40:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E9A3EAC.6040501@sugarcrm.com> References: <4E5B24DD.10903@sugarcrm.com> <4E671355.5060908@sugarcrm.com> <4E9A3EAC.6040501@sugarcrm.com> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 12:40:56 +0200 Message-ID: To: Stas Malyshev Cc: Hannes Magnusson , Ferenc Kovacs , Gustavo Lopes , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 beta From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) hi, On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 4:17 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > On 10/7/11 11:13 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: >> >> The UPGRADING file is also completely worthless. >> I have no idea what is going on, as a dev, nor as a documentor. >> Be it traits, closures, or whatever random new parameter or function was >> added. >> When 5.3 came around, I literally had to diff the sources to figure >> out what was going on, I am not going through that again. > > I've sent a separate email about undocumented stuff but I'm kind of confused > about UPGRADING file - what should be there and how it is related to NEWS? > Should one ad stuff both to NEWS and UPGRADING or I as RM should add stuff > from NEWS to UPGRADING later? Do we have process described anywhere? You (David and you) should ensure that the UPGRADING guide is kept updated. I would say that's not your role to do everything but to ask the respective developers to add notes in there. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org