Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:55814 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 22777 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2011 02:17:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Oct 2011 02:17:20 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain sugarcrm.com designates 207.97.245.203 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 207.97.245.203 smtp203.iad.emailsrvr.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [207.97.245.203] ([207.97.245.203:57672] helo=smtp203.iad.emailsrvr.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2C/F1-09704-0BE3A9E4 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 22:17:20 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp30.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C26DA20641; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 22:17:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp30.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: smalyshev-AT-sugarcrm.com) with ESMTPSA id D41AA2057F; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 22:17:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4E9A3EAC.6040501@sugarcrm.com> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 19:17:16 -0700 Organization: SugarCRM User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hannes Magnusson CC: Ferenc Kovacs , Gustavo Lopes , "internals@lists.php.net" References: <4E5B24DD.10903@sugarcrm.com> <4E671355.5060908@sugarcrm.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.4 beta From: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com (Stas Malyshev) Hi! On 10/7/11 11:13 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > The UPGRADING file is also completely worthless. > I have no idea what is going on, as a dev, nor as a documentor. > Be it traits, closures, or whatever random new parameter or function was added. > When 5.3 came around, I literally had to diff the sources to figure > out what was going on, I am not going through that again. I've sent a separate email about undocumented stuff but I'm kind of confused about UPGRADING file - what should be there and how it is related to NEWS? Should one ad stuff both to NEWS and UPGRADING or I as RM should add stuff from NEWS to UPGRADING later? Do we have process described anywhere? -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227