Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:55768 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 31348 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2011 17:24:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Oct 2011 17:24:28 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.213.42 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.42 mail-yw0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.42] ([209.85.213.42:52324] helo=mail-yw0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D6/27-15867-9C8D19E4 for ; Sun, 09 Oct 2011 13:24:26 -0400 Received: by ywa8 with SMTP id 8so5522402ywa.29 for ; Sun, 09 Oct 2011 10:24:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6E2g36qrTnx/MwaztmaVK0POGsvDJYes1/uVmVnDbfs=; b=nbMhApsd1APKGHGnSlF8HFihboBl0X6ch7Od851RA03JPFRuJwYOYzl+qLbc6pQ/Ic 5d4rJxryyPzHbJnMt7xAyFgXuUmJoi/fonEmYHEmnrekEGp3DIVqXTL4nY4zprOm8ddH zBsz+aLZVoD75xxx9Pe7O09eOn0vyqBjjxuS4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.124.50 with SMTP id w38mr495069yhh.104.1318181061611; Sun, 09 Oct 2011 10:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.147.125.13 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 10:24:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E91CC51.9010106@lsces.co.uk> References: <4E918963.5090903@lsces.co.uk> <4E91CC51.9010106@lsces.co.uk> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 19:24:21 +0200 Message-ID: To: Lester Caine Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Version control From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs) On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > Ferenc Kovacs wrote: >> >> "on the rather one sided discussion on DVCS" >> I disagree with that part of your comment. > > More people are already using git and are not open to changing so the > discussion was rather one sided. :( Today that is probably the right choi= ce > and does not bother me since hg just works transparently with a git repo > anyway. > > Neither git or hg are a complete answer and while I am currently using th= e > php code base via the hg mirror, switching to a git alternative is not a > problem, but the next step is making the rest of the infrastructure work > with things. Veracity is looking at the infrastructure problem but is > probably some years away from offering an alternative complete package. T= he > book outlines a number of points which provide a balanced view of the > remaining problems and certainly clarified a number of the differences > between options for me. Something that did not come to light during our o= wn > 'discussion'. I think the only problem that prevented an even better conversation was that somebody started arguing by gut and when was confronted with reasonable arguments then just kept changing the topic. Do you know how am I talking about? I personally felt really hard to reply some of your mails in that thread without being rude. So while I'm agree that switching DVCS requires careful planning and implementation, but accusing people for being one sided for git when many of them expressed that they personally favor hg(even the person who wrote the rfc, and started the whole discussion) seems unjustified for me. Maybe they are trying to see not just their own preferences but the php ecosystem as whole, and not trying to force their own ideals to others? I don't know, but maybe that could be a hint for you. --=20 Ferenc Kov=C3=A1cs @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu